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Brexit will be a Titanic Success - Boris Johnson

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  • bowlhead99
    bowlhead99 Posts: 12,295 Forumite
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    prosaver wrote: »
    The one where mps voted and passed, that we could have a referendum and our decision was final....
    Maybe, just maybe, you did not read the bill that the MPs voted and passed.

    I mean, either you read it and misunderstood it, or you didn't read it.

    Before you complain about UK politicians weighing in with their opinion and wanting to follow the UK laws passed by Parliament rather than overruling the various Acts that are the foundations of our society... remember that you specifically voiced your opinion that you would like to leave Europe so that you could be ruled by UK MPs following UK laws passed in Parliament.
  • talexuser
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    The court case was not about leaving the EU, it was about the royal perogative of a prime minister under powers from an absolute monarch being able to change a law passed by parliament, without the consent of parliament. Thus the judgement is the very thing exiters wanted - our laws made by our elected parliament, not on a whim by a prime minister for political expediency.
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
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    bowlhead99 wrote: »
    Maybe, just maybe, you did not read the bill that the MPs voted and passed.

    I mean, either you read it and misunderstood it, or you didn't read it.

    Before you complain about UK politicians weighing in with their opinion and wanting to follow the UK laws passed by Parliament rather than overruling the various Acts that are the foundations of our society... remember that you specifically voiced your opinion that you would like to leave Europe so that you could be ruled by UK MPs following UK laws passed in Parliament.

    I did and it was clear we could decide. Passed in pariment
    Thanks:)
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  • redux
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    bowlhead99 wrote: »
    Maybe, just maybe, you did not read the bill that the MPs voted and passed.

    I mean, either you read it and misunderstood it, or you didn't read it.

    Before you complain about UK politicians weighing in with their opinion and wanting to follow the UK laws passed by Parliament rather than overruling the various Acts that are the foundations of our society... remember that you specifically voiced your opinion that you would like to leave Europe so that you could be ruled by UK MPs following UK laws passed in Parliament.
    talexuser wrote: »
    The court case was not about leaving the EU, it was about the royal perogative of a prime minister under powers from an absolute monarch being able to change a law passed by parliament, without the consent of parliament. Thus the judgement is the very thing exiters wanted - our laws made by our elected parliament, not on a whim by a prime minister for political expediency.

    Things are becoming more ridiculous by the day.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg proposes appointing 1000 new peers, all Brexit supporters.

    Any semblance that the original motive of Brexit was about enhancing democracy here is vanishing under a heap of nonsense.
  • Has anyone found out what Brexit means yet?
  • redux
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    bowlhead99 wrote: »
    The remainers fault that it's difficult to negotiate a good deal at the same time as laying your cards in the table to say to your public and government exactly what bad terms you'd probably begrudgingly have to accept, while not knowing how far you can push the 27 members of your opponents because they don't need to do same?

    I think we should probably coin a new term , "blameainers'?

    Meaning someone whose opinion was that they preferred on balance to remain in the EU for any of a number of reasons, was disappointed that they lost the public opinion poll by a slender margin, and is now being inexplicably blamed for all the things that are difficult about leaving the EU with a good deal, on the grounds that they said it would be difficult so it must be their fault that it is.

    This is the way of the leavers abdicating responsibility and shifting blame even before things have any chance to go wrong.
  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Glen_Clark wrote: »

    it's an excellent article which illustrates that democracy should be immediately abolished and three white, middle aged, middle class judges should be appointed to government us in a benevolent manner.
  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    it's an excellent article which illustrates that democracy should be immediately abolished and three white, middle aged, middle class judges should be appointed to government us in a benevolent manner.
    You are missing the point. Which is that Theresa May would not have been using the Brexit vote to by pass the commons vote. She would have been using powers granted to her by Her Unelected Majesty the Queen.
    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair
  • Freecall
    Freecall Posts: 1,337 Forumite
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    Has anyone found out what Brexit means yet?

    Brexit means Brexit.


    Apparently....


    ;)
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