I have always felt that fireworks should not be on sale to the general public

bugslet

Carrot007 wrote: »

Indeed yes you want your way and don't care about the rights of other people.

Far as I can see, that applies to both sides of the argument.

SuzieSue

Carrot007 wrote: »

Indeed yes you want your way and don't care about the rights of other people.

With rights come responsibility. If people can't be responsible, be it driving when drunk or when on the phone, or throwing fireworks, then we have to have laws to prevent innocent people being hurt.

Person_one

It does seem a bit mad that you can buy fairly powerful explosives off the street with the intention of setting them off in your back garden. I would be happier if only organised displays could use bigger fireworks and individuals were restricted to just a few sparklers or something.

Benefits of selling fireworks to any Tom, !!!! or Harry: some people get to see low key fireworks in their own gardens rather than having to travel to an organised display to see more impressive ones more safely.

Downsides of selling fireworks to any Tom, !!!! or Harry: A few injuries every year, some serious and life changing, a few ending up in the hands of idiots and criminals who use them to scare and hurt other people or animals, weeks of random bangs that upset animals and plenty of people too, including some veterans with PTSD.

Seems clear to me that the benefits don't outweigh the downsides in this situation, there would still be plenty of opportunities to see fireworks (and much better ones than in a standard shop bought box!) without selling them so freely. I'll sign.

SuzieSue

Person_one wrote: »

It does seem a bit mad that you can buy fairly powerful explosives off the street with the intention of setting them off in your back garden. I would be happier if only organised displays could use bigger fireworks and individuals were restricted to just a few sparklers or something.

Benefits of selling fireworks to any Tom, !!!! or Harry: some people get to see low key fireworks in their own gardens rather than having to travel to an organised display to see more impressive ones more safely.

Downsides of selling fireworks to any Tom, !!!! or Harry: A few injuries every year, some serious and life changing, a few ending up in the hands of idiots and criminals who use them to scare and hurt other people or animals, weeks of random bangs that upset animals and plenty of people too, including some veterans with PTSD.

Seems clear to me that the benefits don't outweigh the downsides in this situation, there would still be plenty of opportunities to see fireworks (and much better ones than in a standard shop bought box!) without selling them so freely. I'll sign.

A well reasoned argument. Thank you.

GBNI

Unfortunately, the licenses don't prevent shady characters selling them to people that don't have one (I'm in NI)


I would love to see them for professional organisational use only. I would also love to see an outright ban on Chinese lanterns.
One of my dogs is terrified of fireworks, it makes this time of year very difficult.

Carrot007

SuzieSue wrote: »

With rights come responsibility. If people can't be responsible, be it driving when drunk or when on the phone, or throwing fireworks, then we have to have laws to prevent innocent people being hurt.

By removing rights from innocent people because dealing with the irresponsible is too hard?

System

It's like anything IN THE WRONG HANDS, it has the capability to hurt or kill. Drunk, being silly are all things that when applied to almost anything (driving, working etc.) have the ability to kill. A ban is not the answer, otherwise where does it all end?

Carrot007

SuzieSue wrote: »

A well reasoned argument. Thank you.

Or someone that just agrees with you?

Dird

People are also killed every year because the government foolishly allows the general population to drive cars themselves. I can't find the petition though
I'm more concerned about some idiot texting and driving 365 days per year than I am a firework hitting me in the eye 3/4 days per year. Was indoors during Diwali/weekend so it would have needed to be a good shot

Pollycat

DomRavioli wrote: »

And to attempt to get a parliamentary debate over something which celebrates our heritage is a little bit too far. They shouldn't be banned; they should only be sold to to reputable organisations.

Have you even read the thread title?
Have you even looked at the petition?

Ban the sale of fireworks to the public and only approve organised displays.

^^^ Seems pretty clear to me.

SuzieSue wrote: »

The petition said that they should be sold to reputable organisations.

Quite so.

'Celebrating our heritage' is great.
Throwing foreworks or setting them off without due care is not great and should not be classed as 'celebrating our heritage'.
You can 'celebrate our heritage' at a public, organised, safe firework display run by people who know (and care) what they are doing.

DomRavioli wrote: »

I have had fireworks thrown at me. And I still don't have an issue with them. I have a small scar on my right hand from where I got burned when I had one thrown at me. And I would quite happily still say that I don't have an issue with them.

I find it hard to believe that you feel any oik should be able to buy fireworks if you have been on the recieving end of one.