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Landlord Gas Gas Safety Certificate and knackered oven

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  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,635 Ambassador
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    Riggyman wrote: »
    I don't disagree, fussy children was quite amusing. What would have happened if they'd refused access for the annual Gas Safe Inspection? Just curious.

    Notify the gas safety people as a first step, to protect yourself.

    If they continued to prove difficult you could go to court for a judge to order they provide access. Another option may be to turn the gas off at the main meter, until they will allow.

    What sort of people are so fussy that their children can't cope with microwave meals for a few days but don't care about the risks of being poisoned?
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  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Good information here re. gas safety checks
    http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/faqlandlord.htm
  • tealady wrote: »
    If the tenants haven't told you about problems with a gas cooker what else haven't they told you about? Might be worth arranging an inspection.

    Maybe they dont like to make waves knowing the precarious situation tenants live in.
    If the OP knew the oven was old and knackered why wait till it failed to replace it, its a year between gas safety reports it could have been a safety issue during that time.
    Making such a fuss because they can't use an oven for 4 days is quite alarming. Are they good tenants otherwise? That screams of entitlement attitude to me.

    Thats hardly making such a fuss unless your a little snowflake LL. Alarming! If thats the case then grow a thicker skin. They might have previous LL who where less helpful than the OP.
    They are entitled to a safe working cooker.

    The OP asked a theoretical questions about the lock yet a few posts in and it sounds like the tenants have refused access (have they?) and off to court we go.
  • Riggyman
    Riggyman Posts: 185 Forumite
    Wow, that escalated quickly.

    There is a difference between being old and knackered, and being dangerous.

    We like the tenants, we hope they stay long time, new oven being delivered tomorrow!

    No problems with access, I was just wondering hypothetically.
  • FBaby
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    Thats hardly making such a fuss unless your a little snowflake LL. Alarming! If thats the case then grow a thicker skin. They might have previous LL who where less helpful than the OP.
    They are entitled to a safe working cooker
    Complaining of being without an oven for 4 days IS making a fuss! Do you really expect everything to be sorted within 24 hours just because you are mildly inconvenienced otherwise? They WILL get a working cooker, just not immediately.

    I do wonder how some tenants would ever cope being owners if they have such high expectations. Actually, I imagine they expectations would go down as they tend to do when its your money and time that is at stake rather than someone else's.

    Thankfully most tenants are not that unreasonable.
  • Fuzzyness
    Fuzzyness Posts: 635 Forumite
    i think the OP has been more than generous in his speed of response. when renting we were made to wait for about 2 weeks before the LL replaced our dilapidated electric even that broke.
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    edited 3 November 2016 at 8:22PM
    FBaby wrote: »
    Making such a fuss because they can't use an oven for 4 days is quite alarming. Are they good tenants otherwise? That screams of entitlement attitude to me.
    Did the tenant know the cooker would be replaced in four days?

    I suspect they were trying to avoid "when renting we were made to wait for about 2 weeks before the LL replaced our dilapidated electric even that broke."
  • FBaby
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    They knew that the oven would be replaced and were offered a microwave which can cook just about anything that goes in an oven.

    That will be the next thing landlords not providing an oven with the house so that tenants have to bring their own and then they can replace it in 24 hours if they so wish.
  • Heliflyguy
    Heliflyguy Posts: 932 Forumite
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    edited 4 November 2016 at 10:24AM
    FBaby wrote: »
    Complaining of being without an oven for 4 days IS making a fuss! Do you really expect everything to be sorted within 24 hours just because you are mildly inconvenienced otherwise? They WILL get a working cooker, just not immediately.

    I do wonder how some tenants would ever cope being owners if they have such high expectations. Actually, I imagine they expectations would go down as they tend to do when its your money and time that is at stake rather than someone else's.

    Thankfully most tenants are not that unreasonable.

    I agreed that the OP had been helpful, apart from you there has been no mention of expecting a replacement in 24 hours.

    You appear to believe owner occupires and tenants are somehow a different species in that case I wonder how some owner occupiers would cope with being tenants.

    After 4 days (not 24 hours) I would be asking too, except not laying it on as thick as the OP's tenant.

    Have to add that Im amazed you find it "so unreasonable", part of the buisines isnt it or are LLs so entitled that they musnt have slightly unreasonable clients.

    I wonder how some LLs would cope running a business where you have to KowTow to clients just to stay in bussiness,
  • Riggyman
    Riggyman Posts: 185 Forumite
    Interesting development - brand new freestanding gas oven delivered and installed, but the tenants don't like it. Apparently on-line reviews of this oven "aren't good" and "it isn't safe"...
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