Angry re ESA

dktreesea

dadtobe wrote: »

This comment has really wound me up, I grew up on a council estate and lived in a single room with my mum until I was 11 we had no money whatsoever but I worked my !!! off at school to get good GCSES's Straight A Levels and I spent 5 years at university to get a career along with struggling with dyslexia.

There is always going to jobs in care and nursing but its too much like hard work though.

We have a FREE high standard of education in this country, and plenty of people choose to throw it all away. There is no reason why someone can't finish school with good qualifications.

There was a recent study done, and in social groups the bottom 20% accounted for 78% of social spending i.e JSA ESA PIP HB Prescriptions NHS Etc.

Is that so unexpected? I don't think people who have knuckled down and worked hard and got somewhere , regardless of their background, have a very good understanding of those who are struggling through school because they find their particular circumstances overwhelming.


It's no different to the other end of the spectrum. People with a good private school and uni education, who have wanted for nothing, wasting their days away doing nothing in a squat because they "feel empty". They can end up with mental health issues because they have been nurtured throughout their education, only to find that the world of work is quite different, a brutal, dog eat dog, competitive world.


As to jobs in care, you only get paid when you are on the job, not if you are walking between jobs. And if one of the people on your route takes ill and is away to hospital, it doesn't follow you'll have another person to see. That half hour visit today, so 2.5 hours a week, is straight out of your pocket. Yes, people go into care thinking £8.50 an hour, they've got it made. Not so much is it though, if you have a half hour visit in the first hour a 15 minute visit in the second hour etc.

FBaby

dadtobe can you put a link to that study or reference to it? I'd be very interested. I strongly believe that reliance on benefits as a whole is mainly a social and educational issue but never found anything alluding to it.

Messedup post is evidence that you can be clever but it takes much more than that to find your path in life. What has strike me as I have been bringing up my kids is the difference between kids aspirations before they finish school and how kids growing up in middle classes seem to have been engaged in discussions about their future and career prospects with their parents sincethey were kids whereas a number of my kids' friends from lower backgrounds seem to never had that level of communication.

Parents seem to rely on the education system but this is much more about culture and values then about knowledge.