Sorry, maybe silly question but neighbour noise related.

dekaspace

Question being do you find this tolerable/acceptable?

Someone moved upstairs about 3 months ago but only used the property to sleep as did shift work, but in past few weeks has a lot of guests so I estimate a hour or two a day of very loud talking (Or should I say shouting) at random periods and also when in house stomp about (men over 6 feet tall and big built)

And they just got a new washing machine last week and its on to around 11pm mark, and I know 11pm is the cut off but its so loud it makes my kitchen light socket rattle (I can actually see it) and my armchair in living room wobble, and things keep falling over in kitchen when its on (even if I can't hear it)

I know I often ask these sort of things and have had problems with previous occupants but in general their noise was either a woman with dogs who locked them in kitchen when going out and rest of time zero noise, a tenant with a toddler and a baby so you heard heavy crying now and again, and they also did a lot of diy (but never heard everyday noise)

This is only tenant where I constantly hear walking about to high levels (and I can tolerate normal walking about i.e creaky floorboards, or even kids walking about) and the only one where I can hear conversations despite upstairs and downstairs previous tenants having guests round regularly. it was so muffled that even if you heard someone shouting you couldn't make out what was being said.

And for a washing machine to cause this much vibration doesn't seem right to me.

Mr.Generous

i would imagine either wooden floors or just bare floorboards above you. Unless you ask them and mention the noise you will never know.

dekaspace

Its carpeted, but paranoid me is thinking its intentional not to spite me but he has been complaining a lot recently saying he wants to move out of his property and he even told me he has been at council a few times demanding they put him in a council house so he may be wanting me to complain so he is released from his contract.

I can never get hold of him when I knock on his door.

Norman_Castle

I've got two neighbours whose talking would be considered shouting by most peoples standards. They're impossible not to hear. Its likely they are ignorant of how much noise they make.

The washing machine might need leveling or loading properly. Half loads tend to be noisier than full loads when spinning as the drum is unbalanced.
If the don't answer the door try a note asking them to try leveling the machine.

teddysmum

You could inform the council that you are concerned about the effect of heavy vibrations on the structure of the flats.

rtho782

A new washing machine vibrating that much sounds like it hasn't had the transit bolts removed.

Lots of people run washing machines overnight due to Economy 7 Electricity, this isn't really noise pollution, people need to live.

If you can hear conversations and walking.... it's a side effect of living in close proximity to people. If you don't like it you need a detached house!!

Your right to silence doesn't mean they have no right to talk or move in their own home.

silvercar

dekaspace wrote: »

Its carpeted, but paranoid me is thinking its intentional not to spite me but he has been complaining a lot recently saying he wants to move out of his property and he even told me he has been at council a few times demanding they put him in a council house so he may be wanting me to complain so he is released from his contract.

I can never get hold of him when I knock on his door.

It does sound irrational to think that someone is being deliberately annoying to neighbours in the hope that they will complain and the council's action will be to move them to a better property.

dekaspace

rtho782 wrote: »

A new washing machine vibrating that much sounds like it hasn't had the transit bolts removed.

Lots of people run washing machines overnight due to Economy 7 Electricity, this isn't really noise pollution, people need to live.

If you can hear conversations and walking.... it's a side effect of living in close proximity to people. If you don't like it you need a detached house!!

Your right to silence doesn't mean they have no right to talk or move in their own home.

Hes a single man, and you don't get the meaning of the talking and walking, I heard creaky floorboards and very muffled talking in the past from ex tenants but for the volume to be as it is now the people would have to be shouting at the top of their voices all the time, and walking as heavily as they can likely in boots, even the ex tenant who let a toddler run about was far more muffled than this and that only annoyed me as it was running back and forth for long periods and I tolerated it

silvercar wrote: »

It does sound irrational to think that someone is being deliberately annoying to neighbours in the hope that they will complain and the council's action will be to move them to a better property.

His landlord claimed he is abusive on phone making threats of physical violence, not sure if thats true but when one of his lls workers was here to fix my ceiling he came down and started shouting at the worker saying hes not paying rent, hes getting a council house as the place is unlivable and he doesn't want to live there but he must of got nowhere as hes still living there but it was the same time the noise started getting bad so I assume thats why it did as hes trying to create problems to be removed from his contract as he said to me himself he wants to move elsewhere.

Bonfire_Bride

dekaspace wrote: »

even the ex tenant who let a toddler run about was far more muffled than this and that only annoyed me as it was running back and forth for long periods and I tolerated it
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Have you tried to "contain" a toddler? It is in their nature to want to run around...they have endless energy.



Maybe you need to start looking elsewhere to live. The next tennant after this man could be even worse. Try popping a note through his door - that may be enough to put a stop to it.

dekaspace

Bonfire_Bride wrote: »

dekaspace wrote: »

even the ex tenant who let a toddler run about was far more muffled than this and that only annoyed me as it was running back and forth for long periods and I tolerated it
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Have you tried to "contain" a toddler? It is in their nature to want to run around...they have endless energy.



Maybe you need to start looking elsewhere to live. The next tennant after this man could be even worse. Try popping a note through his door - that may be enough to put a stop to it.

Context is a wonderful thing, I said I tolerated the toddler, and that was the very reason as at the end of the day it was more bite lip annoying hearing the child run about on and off for a hour or two.

Did you misunderstand the point of what I said? Specifically when I mentioned that the noise of the toddler was far more muffled than what I hear now.

Norman_Castle

rtho782 wrote: »

If you can hear conversations and walking.... it's a side effect of living in close proximity to people. If you don't like it you need a detached house!!

Your right to silence doesn't mean they have no right to talk or move in their own home.

The op hasn't suggested they have a right to silence. They've said the current tenant is excessively noisy compared to previous tenants.
Some people are or become sensitive to noise and would probably prefer a detached house. Equally there are people who are very noisy and are not the best people to live in flats. They would irritate anyone.