xmas/ birthday presents

Cheeky_Monkey

I was watching a programme about vultures the other day

Ames

TELLIT01 wrote: »

If she gives large gifts to anybody it can be considered to be deprivation of capital. 'Intentional' may be open to interpretation, but it will be the council's interpretation which matters, not your mother's.
To avoid the risk it will be much safer for her to reduce the gift level to below £100 (my guestimate of what would be accepted from my time working for DWP).
Assuming the sale of the house goes through this is all likely to be academic anyway isn't it as her savings would be above the threshold?
To the OP - if you expect a simple answer to a question, without judgemental responses, I think you have already realised you are on the wrong board!

They will be, but when they drop below the threshold then social services will look back at all spending. She's already in a home, it's already known that she'll need care, so it's reasonable to expect her to plan ahead to make sure she can afford to pay for it as long as possible.

ev8

What a horrible thread.

I have cousins like this, they abandoned their Grandmother for years of her lief, broke her heart, but came around for the cash.

Let the woman enjoy some money for herself and make do with socks for Christmas, £500 is an awful lot to be getting from her.

phil122

ev8 wrote: »

What a horrible thread.

I have cousins like this, they abandoned their Grandmother for years of her lief, broke her heart, but came around for the cash.

Let the woman enjoy some money for herself and make do with socks for Christmas, £500 is an awful lot to be getting from her.

what do you mean like this

phil122

phil122 wrote: »

what do you mean like this

she does enjoy the money. is it not allowed for grandparents to give presents to the grandchildren someone at my daughters school there grandparents pay for all to go away on summer holidays.

TELLIT01

ev8 wrote: »

What a horrible thread.

I have cousins like this, they abandoned their Grandmother for years of her lief, broke her heart, but came around for the cash.

Let the woman enjoy some money for herself and make do with socks for Christmas, £500 is an awful lot to be getting from her.

Would you care to show where you have the evidence to support your claim that the OP's family has 'abandoned their grandmother for years'? As the grandmother has been giving xmas gifts to the grandchildren that claim would seem to be a long way from accurate.
My reading of the OP is that they are trying to make sure that they avoid the risk of the grandmother being found to have deprived herself of capital.
Many people do expect that their family member's hard earned money can be used for whatever purpose that person wishes. The reality is very different, particularly when Social Services get involved. Like that fact or hate it - it makes no difference.

phil122

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Would you care to show where you have the evidence to support your claim that the OP's family has 'abandoned their grandmother for years'? As the grandmother has been giving xmas gifts to the grandchildren that claim would seem to be a long way from accurate.
My reading of the OP is that they are trying to make sure that they avoid the risk of the grandmother being found to have deprived herself of capital.
Many people do expect that their family member's hard earned money can be used for whatever purpose that person wishes. The reality is very different, particularly when Social Services get involved. Like that fact or hate it - it makes no difference.

At last someone who understands that is the very point i was trying to make (maybe it didn't sound like it) we just don't want her getting into trouble later on down the line. We told her about what people on here said but she can't understand why she has to stop given these presents just because she has moved into a home. thanks for all your comments well the nice ones anyway :rotfl:

phil122

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Would you care to show where you have the evidence to support your claim that the OP's family has 'abandoned their grandmother for years'? As the grandmother has been giving xmas gifts to the grandchildren that claim would seem to be a long way from accurate.
My reading of the OP is that they are trying to make sure that they avoid the risk of the grandmother being found to have deprived herself of capital.
Many people do expect that their family member's hard earned money can be used for whatever purpose that person wishes. The reality is very different, particularly when Social Services get involved. Like that fact or hate it - it makes no difference.

At last someone who understands that is the very point i was trying to make (maybe it didn't sound like it) we just don't want her getting into trouble later on down the line. We told her about what people on here said but she can't understand why she has to stop given these presents just because she has moved into a home. thanks for all your comments well the nice ones and nonjudgmental ones :rotfl:

ev8

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Would you care to show where you have the evidence to support your claim that the OP's family has 'abandoned their grandmother for years'? As the grandmother has been giving xmas gifts to the grandchildren that claim would seem to be a long way from accurate.
My reading of the OP is that they are trying to make sure that they avoid the risk of the grandmother being found to have deprived herself of capital.
Many people do expect that their family member's hard earned money can be used for whatever purpose that person wishes. The reality is very different, particularly when Social Services get involved. Like that fact or hate it - it makes no difference.

I don't have evidence that they abandoned her, but I was talking about those who were out for the money of the elderly.
If my Grandmother said making me happy was giving me £500 every birthday and Christmas I would be returning it to her or using the money on her. There is no way I would be ensuring I was getting it.

And I sure as hell wouldn't be checking on it to make sure she still could give me my £500.

This thread just makes me quite sad.

xylophone

You simply do not know how long a person will be in a home.

Someone of my acquaintance went into care at the age of 91 and is now in her 95th year and that despite heart failure, hypertension, severe arthritis etc etc.....

Another care home resident had been there a number of years and had reached the age of 101.