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GCSE retakes in an FE College

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  • missbiggles1
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    Looking at some of those GCSEs, these are not difficult subjects. In fact I don't honestly know how someone reasonably bright could NOT get an O level pass in RE.

    The question of the course being equivalent to x amount of GSCEs is a bit of a red herring if the girl does not want to pursue a career in the course she's doing. If she does, then yes, there may be no need for re-sits. But I got the impression from the OP that she wants to keep her options open, and to get the grades of which she is truly capable rather than have a load of mediocre Cs and Ds on her educational record.

    It's equivalent to GCSEs in general, not just if carrying on in this line of education or employment.

    Please don't try to advise the OP about something you obviously know so little about.
  • missbiggles1
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    It is absolutely impossible to fail a GCSE, other than not turning up to the exam, which is why employers, colleges and universities only acknowledge grade C and above as a reasonable pass mark.

    Your daughter did A levels, which is very different from a 'Not Very Qualified' course at a college.

    Gawd - you don't even know that level 2 and 3 courses aren't all NVQs!
  • duchy wrote: »
    You do know O levels went out a generation ago......with such out of date knowledge it is as surprising you'd know the syllabus as it is that you'd know the level of knowledge the OPs niece has in the subject (and indeed what religions if any she has knowledge of , are you assuming she has a Christian background rather than Muslim, Jewish or even Wiccan.?)

    Which is why I said an O Level pass, not an O Level. See my post above. GCSEs were designed to be almost impossible to fail.
  • Spirit_2
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    It is absolutely impossible to fail a GCSE, other than not turning up to the exam, which is why employers, colleges and universities only acknowledge grade C and above as a reasonable pass mark.

    Your daughter did A levels, which to some employers may not be as useful as a properly prepared vocational course at a college.


    Edited for you.


    As a wise man once said "make your point, but be nice doing it"
  • divadee
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    edited 25 September 2016 at 1:30PM
    It is absolutely impossible to fail a GCSE, other than not turning up to the exam, which is why employers, colleges and universities only acknowledge grade C and above as a reasonable pass mark.

    Your daughter did A levels, which is very different from a 'Not Very Qualified' course at a college.

    I will be sure to tell a friends daughter who did a level 3 btec at college who now has an apprenticeship at Google that she's not very qualified huh? Maybe businesses see past your old fashioned attitude and see qualifications for what they actually are these days! Qualifications.

    My other half who is the HE advisor in FE did a btec and went on to a degree and now is the go to person for HE will be amused that he's not very qualified as he didn't go 'a levels'.

    You need to step away from a subject that your knowledge is about 30 years out of date I'm afraid.
  • It's equivalent to GCSEs in general, not just if carrying on in this line of education or employment.

    Please don't try to advise the OP about something you obviously know so little about.

    The OP can read all the replies and choose the ones which she thinks apply to her situation.
  • Spendless
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    One of the subjects mentioned is business studies. My son left yr11 this summer, several of his peers did the GCSE exam, I've yet to find one that got above a D grade in it. Whether that is because this years exam was particularly tricky or for another reason I don't know. Son dropped it after a month as he found it too 'wordy' a subject (which to me says a lot considering he was also taking GCSE Psychology, which is also 'wordy!). He changed to Food only to have school drop him from the exam because his predicted grade was too low! I'd far rather he have got below a C than not take the exam!

    From what the OP has said, it isn't likely that he Neice wants to go to Oxbridge or to study medicine! What she has already got with the required grades from her current course will be enough to go on to do something else, even in an unrelated subject.
  • divadee
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    I'm stepping away from this thread now as its making me angry with the ignorance of one poster.

    SPIRIT - I would keep encouraging her to do well in level 2 and 3 qualifications. Don't make her do additional qualifications which may put her off studying. When she finishes her level 3 she will have more than enough options open to her without the need for her to do additional, pointless studying. She's 16. The world is her oyster, she has given herself those options by getting her maths and English!!
  • Spendless wrote: »
    From what the OP has said, it isn't likely that he Neice wants to go to Oxbridge or to study medicine! What she has already got with the required grades from her current course will be enough to go on to do something else, even in an unrelated subject.

    Yes, I think this is it. It's unclear what the girl wants to do, - is she an academic who due to unfortunate home circumstances has not managed to get the grades of which she is capable, or is she more inclined towards vocational courses or even an apprenticeship?
  • missbiggles1
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    divadee wrote: »
    I will be sure to tell a friends daughter who did a level 3 btec at college who now has an apprenticeship at Google that she's not very qualified huh? Maybe businesses see past your old fashioned attitude and see qualifications for what they actually are these days! Qualifications.

    My other half who is the HE advisor in FE did a btec and went on to a degree and now is the go to person for HE will be amused that he's not very qualified as he didn't go 'a levels'.

    You need to step away from a subject that your knowledge is about 30 years out of date I'm afraid.

    I was a course tutor on a BTEC National course for many years and 50% of my students went into HE after they finished. Several of them had done the BTEC General (now First) to obtain entry to the National.
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