Help ! Windows update not working ..??

agarnett

victor2 wrote:

Now the free upgrade "window" to Win 10 has closed, it doesn't bug you any longer to accept it.

Sure that is one message that is out there. But there are lots of other "Help! What's it doing now?" type reports from Windows users. Who really knows whether they will switch on tomorrow and find their machine wants to take 2 hours to do something unexpected before they can use it, and if it is still W7 on the front splash, whether it is still W7 under the bonnet if Microsoft want to upgrade it in certain ways to suit Microsoft?

AndyPix wrote:

me wrote:

. I used it a week ago on a friend's machine. !

Why ?

Because she asked her informed son how to stop W10 from disrupting the machine she relies upon for business, and he told her, and she passed on the response and asked me to find the download and try it. And I did (as you do!)

Fightsback wrote: »

I mention Steve Gibson and witch doctor in the same breath, the man's credibility (if he had any to start with) was destroyed centuries ago.

Explain for the masses, please. Is his credibility in MS Windows matters less than or greater than yours?

Or more usefully, what does Never10 do that is bad for users who would rather stay on W7 for now? If you come up with a reasonable answer to that one, I shall pass it on to both the data scientist and his Mum!

AndyPix

agarnett wrote: »

Because she asked her informed son how to stop W10 from disrupting the machine she relies upon for business, and he told her, and she passed on the response and asked me to find the download and try it. And I did (as you do!) !

So why didnt you just tell her that this is no longer an issue because the free upgrade saga has ended and no machines will be automatically updated now ?

AndyPix

agarnett wrote: »

Or more usefully, what does Never10 do that is bad for users who would rather stay on W7 for now? If you come up with a reasonable answer to that one, I shall pass it on to both the data scientist and his Mum!

It doesnt do anything bad - Its doesnt have a use now that the MS upgrade push has ended.


Pass that to the data scientist and his mum .. and dad, why not

agarnett

AndyPix wrote: »

It doesnt do anything bad - Its doesnt have a use now that the MS upgrade push has ended.


Pass that to the data scientist and his mum .. and dad, why not

Oh you mean AndyPix says, like Simon says?

Do you actually know that Never10 is now redundant, and do you believe that the end of the Microsoft Upgrade push as you call it was the end of automatic upgrades of major parts of the W7 operating system to W10 components?

I don't, but you may know better. Tell us what is likely to remain unchanged under the bonnet of W7 and what is likely to get changed like it or not.

Do you know how Never10 stopped the auto upgrade? Do you know if the "how" of Never10 might be enough to stop major OS component upgrade?

Or are you guessing?

AndyPix

You are one strange chap

Shrimply

agarnett wrote: »

Oh you mean AndyPix says, like Simon says?

Do you actually know that Never10 is now redundant,

It was always redundant, I stopped all the nagging to upgrade to windows 10 without installing any additional software.

agarnett

Shrimply wrote: »

It was always redundant, I stopped all the nagging to upgrade to windows 10 without installing any additional software.

Clever you Shrimply! But not everyone is so clever, are they?

Hence Never10 seems to have had 1.9M downloads, it installs no software of its own, and as has been confirmed by the acknowledged regular experts here, there's nothing at all bad about its 83 kilobytes of cleverness

Fightsback

Shrimply wrote: »

The fact that 1.9M people would rather install something than do it natively themselves is part of the reason why computer malware is so prevalent.

And how David Icke manages to make a living, there's a sucker born every minute.

AndyPix

Go on, ill bite

agarnett wrote: »

Do you actually know that Never10 is now redundant, ?

yes, its purpose was to stop the forced upgrade to windows 10, which has now ended

agarnett wrote: »

and do you believe that the end of the Microsoft Upgrade push as you call it was the end of automatic upgrades of major parts of the W7 operating system to W10 components??

I dont know where you have got that from, but W7 is W7 - W10 is W10 , different OS.

agarnett wrote: »

I don't, but you may know better. Tell us what is likely to remain unchanged under the bonnet of W7 and what is likely to get changed like it or not.

Stuff will get changed, as vulns are discovered , they will get patched. Until W7 support ends

agarnett wrote: »

Do you know how Never10 stopped the auto upgrade? ?

Yes, and i have explained it on this forum before - do you ?

agarnett wrote: »

Do you know if the "how" of Never10 might be enough to stop major OS component upgrade

- I know that it will do what it is designed to do - Block the auto install of windows 10 . No more , no less

agarnett wrote: »

Or are you guessing?

Nope, i am using my knowledge of IT to answer your many silly questions

Le_Kirk

Did anyone notice there were some optional updates along with this months important updates (Uzbekistan not having daylight saving time) that were purported to remove all the "naughty" updates, KB3035583 amongst them or did I just dream it. I hid them.