Independent Appeal Service Declined

ralphicous

Quick update;

Not surprised that my friend received a "Reminder Notice - Do not Ignore this notice" from PPM Ltd stating that he should pay the £100 charge within 28 days.

They also stated, "The case will then be passed to our Debt Recovery Agent which may escalate to court proceedings to recover the amount owed. The overdue charge will increase to £150 in the first instance to further action."

I specifically told PPM by email to contact me should they wish to pursue the ticket. But completely ignored that and still went on to chase my friend.

I am so close to going to their head office and pay them £100....in pennies.

beamerguy

ralphicous wrote: »

Quick update;

Not surprised that my friend received a "Reminder Notice - Do not Ignore this notice" from PPM Ltd stating that he should pay the £100 charge within 28 days.

They also stated, "The case will then be passed to our Debt Recovery Agent which may escalate to court proceedings to recover the amount owed. The overdue charge will increase to £150 in the first instance to further action."

I specifically told PPM by email to contact me should they wish to pursue the ticket. But completely ignored that and still went on to chase my friend.

I am so close to going to their head office and pay them £100....in pennies.

Arrr don't do that, cannot pay scammers.

So, any debt collector they employ will just send you junk mail, they will probably be related to the Nigerian Scammers anyway.

Could go on for months and if so you ignore. If they fail with you, which they will then they pass it back to PPM AND LET'S SEE what they do. Just in case, get yourself a good defence ready, all the answers will be on this site.

Think Nigerian scammers

ralphicous

Thanks for your advice @beamerguy

However I really don't want them to pester my friend. That's why I have emailed them immediately after they rejected the appeal back on the 27th August to chase me and not my friend. Which they have clearly ignored.

Can I send them another email detailing that they should chase me? Is it worth it?
Can I call them angrily telling them to chase me, the resident and lease holder of the parking space they are trying to make a profit off of?

beamerguy

ralphicous wrote: »

Thanks for your advice @beamerguy

However I really don't want them to pester my friend. That's why I have emailed them immediately after they rejected the appeal back on the 27th August to chase me and not my friend. Which they have clearly ignored.

Can I send them another email detailing that they should chase me? Is it worth it?
Can I call them angrily telling them to chase me, the resident and lease holder of the parking space they are trying to make a profit off of?

But, they will not and cannot chase you as you are nothing to do with ticket

Coupon-mad

I am so close to going to their head office and pay them £100..

Anyone who does that is looked down on here.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/71337219#Comment_71337219

It isn't just about the one PCN. If everyone stopped paying like sheep, the entire industry would die.

ralphicous

I've gone this far so no I will not pay them unless a judge tells me to do so if and when I lose in court.

I wish it is as simple as "It's my parking space as stated in the Lease, so with my consent, anyone can park in/on it."

fisherjim

If you were neither the driver or the keeper you will be ignored, unless of course you pay the invoice, they will take your money as that's all they are interested in.

But that would be silly!

Coupon-mad

ralphicous wrote: »

I've gone this far so no I will not pay them unless a judge tells me to do so if and when I lose in court.

I wish it is as simple as "It's my parking space as stated in the Lease, so with my consent, anyone can park in/on it."

A bit like the appeal point used at POPLA by IanMSpencer as discussed here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/71339517#Comment_71339517

I like that wording and it's certainly able to be adapted into a defence for anyone where they were perfectly 'authorised' to be there and (arguably) none of the commercial justification bull from the Beavis case applies.

ralphicous

Update: 17th December 2016

Hello all,

Happy holidays!

Just a quick update and to further seek advice if possible.

I know everyone is busy especially during this holiday season so I appreciate your time reading this post!

I have now received a letter from Advantis telling me that they have been instructed by their client, DVLA, to verify the current whereabouts of [me], formerly resident at [my previous address], in relation to an outstanding business matter. (Bearing in mind that they sent the letter on my current address already...so I am not sure what they need to verify?)

Upon discovering that they are a Credit collector, I all of a sudden remembered that I had this Private Parking charge that I had refused to pay Parking and Property Management back in August this year. To summarise my point, I had purchased this flat along with the parking space where my friend got a pcn for parking on my designated parking space. So I am certain that they Advantis are working for Parking and Property Management to seek payment for my unpaid PCN.

I still believe that I can do whatever I want on a parking space that is included in my mortgage so I want to fight for this until it goes to court.

I appreciate your feedback!
Many thanks!

Umkomaas

I have now received a letter from Advantis telling me that they have been instructed by their client, DVLA, to verify the current whereabouts of [me],

You need to check this out with the DVLA. If P & PM are their client, then purporting they act for the DVLA could be tantamount to fraud.

On the other hand, if they are actually acting on behalf of the DVLA, then you'd better find out what that's all about so you can deal with it correctly.