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The Trade Implications of Brexit....

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  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    and whyever would national boundaries have an impact on your hypothesis about density and size and income: does mathematic economics recognise national boundaries?

    why look at Brazil when you can look at S America



    surely this is obvious. developed countries utilize labour more productively than undeveloped ones.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    surely this is obvious. developed countries utilize labour more productively than undeveloped ones.

    obviously nonsense

    developed countries are developed because they use labour more productively and of course little to do will the quantity of that labour
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    yessuz wrote: »
    Well, no.
    1) you moan about huge immigration and that allegedly, UK, being inside EU, cannot control that.
    2) Then I say, that actually, that it is not true, as definitely more than a half of the immigration in UK are actually from NON-EU countries and UK has all the means to control that.
    3) Moreover, I actually claim, that EU migrants are not a burden on the state but an important contributor to it. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/britons-43-more-likely-claim-4669678

    So now, having this in mind - Why are you so against immigration?

    So what was Clapton's answer?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    So what was Clapton's answer?

    I've given my answer to why I believe that a sustainable Uk population is good for the people of the Uk
    I don't recall your reasons for discriminating against black african countries in favour of white christian european ones.

    but you can easily correct that
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    obviously nonsense

    developed countries are developed because they use labour more productively and of course little to do will the quantity of that labour


    so your productivity is the same irrespective of location?

    Clapton can work just as productively in London as he can in the middle of the Scottish highlands
  • CKhalvashi
    CKhalvashi Posts: 12,134 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    Either way you have 'won'. The people of the UK voted against large EU net migration so the UK may see a slowing down of population growth.

    Your ballot paper was obviously different to mine.

    Mine read 'Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?'.

    You still haven't considered that a larger number of UK residents are over 65, and that to keep the economy moving we need to encourage workers to come.

    I've explained before why I'm against a points-based system (everyone should have the chance to start at the bottom, in a way that is fair for British workers), and the Brexiteers have still refused to listen to that point.

    If anyone would like to explain the part in brackets, then please do feel free, because it would be nice to hear your views/proposals.
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  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I've given my answer to why I believe that a sustainable Uk population is good for the people of the Uk

    Was that an answer to Hamish's question? Can you reference it for me? I might have missed it but maybe I though the reply so obscure that it was not an answer.

    I don't recall your reasons for discriminating against black african countries in favour of white christian european ones.

    I cannot see that we do discriminate in this way. What is the evidence or is this just opinion?


    but you can easily correct that[/QUOTE]
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    so your productivity is the same irrespective of location?

    Clapton can work just as productively in London as he can in the middle of the Scottish highlands

    complete nonsense
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »




    I cannot see that we do discriminate in this way. What is the evidence or is this just opinion?

    other than yourself, there is not one person in the entire world that thinks the UK treats the people of the Black African countries the same as those of the White European Countries in terms of

    -trade
    -immigration rules
    -visa requires
    -etc
  • LHW99
    LHW99 Posts: 5,260 Forumite
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    You still haven't considered that a larger number of UK residents are over 65, and that to keep the economy moving we need to encourage workers to come.
    However these workers have families who use the infrastructure and many will become permanent residents and will need looking after in their old age. So the number of elderly will increase and we will need more workers to support them, and they will get old and increase the number of elderly and ......

    There are enough humans in this world, and this is the elephant in the room that is even less easy to get agreement over than climate change.
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