UKPC 2nd letter stage

hineyb

Hahaaha! i was told to keep it long as they are more likely to accept the appeal?

Coupon-mad

Umkomaas wrote: »

Almost 5,000 words! One of the main reasons I gave up trying to critique POPLA appeals.

Yep but mostly template stuff, e.g the signs & landowner authority paragraphs are standard.

Hahaaha! I was told to keep it long as they are more likely to accept the appeal?

Indeed, and I am going to suggest after 'no keeper liability' you also add the template point which goes hand in hand with 'no keeper liability' - the one about 'the individual nor being identified as the person liable' (see POPLA Decisions thread).

I also always suggest the signage paragraph is illustrated by embedding the blurry images of UKPC signs you'll find on their website under your photos. Make it pretty and stop the Assessor falling asleep (choose the worst pics that show the car nowhere near a sign and the illegible small print in all its glory).

Make it long but make it readable with pics.

Umkomaas

It's not so much the number of words themselves, off-putting enough as they are, it's more often about the 'copy and dump' then leave it to a regular to fine-toothcomb that frustrates me. And then to be shortly followed by another attempt and then to be asked to go through it yet again, often with more errors to sift out.

OPs need to be realistic in what can be expected from regulars. They are often operating in their own little case vacuum blissfully ignorant that regulars are commenting on dozens of other cases simultaneously.

As I said (in a similar 'rant') last night, I admire your resilience (and unwavering patience) CM.

hineyb

is this pic a good one to use??

Coupon-mad

Umkomaas wrote: »

It's not so much the number of words themselves, off-putting enough as they are, it's more often about the 'copy and dump' then leave it to a regular to fine-toothcomb that frustrates me. And then to be shortly followed by another attempt and then to be asked to go through it yet again, often with more errors to sift out.

OPs need to be realistic in what can be expected from regulars. They are often operating in their own little case vacuum blissfully ignorant that regulars are commenting on dozens of other cases simultaneously.

As I said (in a similar 'rant') last night, I admire your resilience (and unwavering patience) CM.

It's all skim-reading! There is no fine tooth comb used, I just look for the right headings/template and a quick check for anything specific that should be added.

OPs can proof read their own versions for relevance, that's their task.

hineyb

And should i add it with text saying.. how am i supposed to read this from here bla bla

or would they not expect you to see there is a sign and get out your car and read what the sign says???

they can be expected or required to put a sign infront of every space are they?

hineyb

Just picked this up from my mums too...



can i send the same POP appeal but just ammend the dates?

Coupon-mad

how am i supposed to read this from here bla bla

Except lose the word 'I' because you do not want to imply the driver!!

can i send the same POP appeal but just amend the dates?

Of course, if it's all the same and relevant. I once sent the same POPLA appeal six times for a friend's tickets!

hineyb

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Of course, if it's all the same and relevant. I once sent the same POPLA appeal six times for a friend's tickets!

haha did you win them all?

Coupon-mad

Yes, I've never lost one for any friend/colleague or footie fan. There is almost always a winning angle.

Lost IAS appeals but that's par for the course!