UKPC 2nd letter stage

The_Deep

She can complain to the landowner / management agency ...


No, she is a tenant not a leaseholder. She should go through her landlord or his/her agent.

The_Deep

hineyb wrote: »

Can i not just say i own the car and she was driving it?

without of cause letting them know she was driving it??

But you told us she does not drive


my girlfriend has recently moved to a rented flat which UKPC control.. she doesnt drive so she has given me her permit..

parkingwoes_2

Herzlos wrote: »

Beat them at POPLA enough times and they'll stop wasting your time - it's costing them £27 each time you appeal and making the warden no commission.

That was the old POPLA rate with London Councils, I am not sure there are any solid published figures of what the Ombudsman Services are charging for their [STRIKE] substandard[/STRIKE] equivalent service.

However, if the PPC does not contend the appeal and withdraws, we know there is no charge for the PPC

Coupon-mad

hineyb wrote: »

Ok thanks Herzlos

and what would my appeal be based on at POPLA stage?

As advised in the NEWBIES thread post #3, search the forum for the name of the firm and the word POPLA (and in this case add the word 'permit' to the search, so in this case 'UKPC POPLA permit' finds you recent examples to copy from. Like every other newbie here, copy & adapt a similar one, then show us your draft at that stage.

Ignore that standard UKPC letter that begs to be told who was driving. And...don't lie about the driver.

Herzlos

The_Deep wrote: »

But you told us she does not drive

Yeah, you might have issues naming a non-driver as the driver, but you shouldn't be naming the driver anyway.

She should be catching any new invoices and appealing as keeper (which makes life easier for you, as if those ones ever got to court she can't be the driver, since she doesn't drive).

She can still complain to landlord and management agents about the invoices issued to her car. She doesn't need to tell them she can't drive because legally it doesn't matter.

hineyb

Hi guys.. update!

so i received 3 parking fines altogether from UKPC

544
608
605

544 current status is they sent the letter and i am waiting for a second letter with POPLA code.

608 - they have sent response to my standard letter saying we believe there is another signage bla bla bla and i can pay the reduced rate. appeal to popla or do nothing an fine will go up..

I have looked at the signage and it is very sufficient and big enough.. what do you suggest i do here?

Now here is the interesting part!!

605 - i receive letter back from standard appeal saying.. in order to make final desicion.. please can you send a copt of vaild parking permit to appeals dept...

so now if i do this they will cancel 605??

do you think there is grounds for me here to say

"here is my parking permit.. can you now please council all of the above fines in my name due to your wardens poor awareness"... and send all the PCN numbers i have???

Again, thanks in advance for your help

hineyb

I also now have the landowners details.. after weeks of searching.. could this help us fight the UKPC off in anyway?

Umkomaas

hineyb wrote: »

I also now have the landowners details.. after weeks of searching.. could this help us fight the UKPC off in anyway?

Only by you pressing the landowner to intervene and for them to tell UKPC to cancel.

The_Deep

Unless the lease explicitly says something about the car being registered to a registered tenant, then you're completely above board,

She is a tenant, she will almost certainly have an AST.

The_Deep

hineyb wrote: »

I also now have the landowners details.. after weeks of searching.. could this help us fight the UKPC off in anyway?

As a tenant, she should not contact the MA directly, but though her landlord.