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Ebay seller saying car has mot but not showing on dvla

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  • Joe_Horner
    Joe_Horner Posts: 4,895 Forumite
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    Because clearly the 'system' is fool proof! And you knew it's perfect because you checked your own mot once.

    An mot sheet will have mot number, testing station, tester etc on it. Thus easily verifiable with a quick phone call to the listed station.

    Your comments are naive, also because of the systems down testing stations obtain a number valid for that day which they write on paperwork in cases where the systems are down - which was quite often at one point!
    So are you saying a testing station who give you contingency paperwork are sending you on your way without an MOT? NO they are not. The car has a valid mot but won't be on the system until a later time.

    Geeze some people

    No, the system is far from fool-proof BUT, as it stands, the only proof of a current MOT is the record on the central database.

    The "receipt style certificate" that you get is ONLY a confirmation that a test pass has been recorded on that database but is NOT proof of a pass in itself.

    So if, for example you're stopped for no MOT and show a certificate you will STILL be found guilty if they can't trace that test on the computer.

    It's an archive copy from before they turned gov.uk into a kiddies' bite-size joke site but note the wording 2 lines above "how to check your MOT" here:

    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20121003034630/http://direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/Mot/DG_4022108

    or here from the AA in the section "The certificate":

    http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/legal-advice/mot.html

    or here from ukmot.com under "about the new certificate":

    http://www.ukmot.com/yourmot.asp


    It was done that way because they're now printed on plain paper that can be easily copied by anyone with a basic printer. They even provide an example online that you can uses as a handy template for printing them:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/431712/sample-mot-test-certificate-vt-20.pdf

    So, as I said, if you rely on a seller showing you a "certificate" when there's no trace of that test on the database then you're very foolish.

    Not only could it easily be faked, if it is faked, having it will be no defence if you're stopped.
  • Fat_Walt
    Fat_Walt Posts: 750 Forumite
    Op careful what you read from posters around here... Most of them make things up as they go along

    :rotfl::rotfl:

    Some tool had a tall story about a jag yesterday.
  • Fat_Walt
    Fat_Walt Posts: 750 Forumite
    Well done you have something called memory



    Because clearly the 'system' is fool proof! And you knew it's perfect because you checked your own mot once.

    An mot sheet will have mot number, testing station, tester etc on it. Thus easily verifiable with a quick phone call to the listed station.


    Your comments are naive, also because of the systems down testing stations obtain a number valid for that day which they write on paperwork in cases where the systems are down - which was quite often at one point!
    So are you saying a testing station who give you contingency paperwork are sending you on your way without an MOT? NO they are not. The car has a valid mot but won't be on the system until a later time.

    Geeze some people

    No need to waste a phone call. They vehicle will have a manufacturer and a registration number, it's all you need to look it up.
  • Fat_Walt wrote: »
    No need to waste a phone call. They vehicle will have a manufacturer and a registration number, it's all you need to look it up.


    If you have a contingency test undertaken because of system downtime... Tell me how you can look it up then?
  • Fat_Walt wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl:

    Some tool had a tall story about a jag yesterday.

    Ye ? Proof it
  • Fat_Walt
    Fat_Walt Posts: 750 Forumite
    Ye ? Proof it


    Have a bit of trouble typing are we?

    Someone will dig it out of the Google cache if you make it a challenge.
  • Fat_Walt wrote: »
    Have a bit of trouble typing are we?

    Someone will dig it out of the Google cache if you make it a challenge.


    I'm dimming my std of English down so my posts are inline with the quality of posts overall around here
  • I'm dimming my std of English down so my posts are inline with the quality of posts overall around here

    No, don't pander to anyone. When one is capable of proper use of the language one should never stoop to the level of the illiterate.
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Fat_Walt wrote: »
    No need to waste a phone call. They vehicle will have a manufacturer and a registration number, it's all you need to look it up.

    Actually the other poster is right, MOTs don't always show up on the system straight away and paperwork issued during a contingency test is a legal document meaning the vehicle has a valid MOT but not yet recorded on the system
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    arcon5 wrote: »
    Actually the other poster is right, MOTs don't always show up on the system straight away and paperwork issued during a contingency test is a legal document meaning the vehicle has a valid MOT but not yet recorded on the system

    But why can't the OP's just move onto the next vehicle for sale rather than be arguing with a seller?
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