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Hire company paid private PCN against their own terms and conditions (ARVAL again!)
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My interpretation from your pdf is that the total area of all signs counts towards the 0.3m2 limit, not individual signs.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks0 -
My apologies for not knowing the feminine form for "dude" 😄
I thank both ladies and gents for their assistance in this thread.
I made it up.
As for the signage, are there any outside the car park perimeter such as just the other side of a wall on public property, or overhanging public property?
The 100 quid is not prominent or in larger font than the normal charges, so breaches the BPA CoP requirements for signage, plus the Beavis case requirements.
What is this standard fee of 100 quid of which they speak? It also says this fee is per day which is a breach of the BPA CoP maximum charge. Complaints to BPA, DVLA, Trading Standards, and local press should be forthcoming.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks0 -
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Take a pic as if the motorist was approaching on the public road form the left. The sign would be invisible.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks0 -
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I doubt the £100/day could be interpreted as a contractural fee. Hence it's a penalty, and the Beavis case says so (pay/hour car parks were explicitly excluded from the judgement at the Court of Appeal). Further, if you overstay, then CEL should only ask for £100 minus what you paid in order to make up the £100/day. That will be a problem for them.0
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The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »I doubt the £100/day could be interpreted as a contractural fee. Hence it's a penalty, and the Beavis case says so (pay/hour car parks were explicitly excluded from the judgement at the Court of Appeal). Further, if you overstay, then CEL should only ask for £100 minus what you paid in order to make up the £100/day. That will be a problem for them.
http://www.parking-prankster.com/case-law.html0 -
CEL tried this in a case against Mrs McCafferty, (Case No 21), and it was ruled a penalty, (it was £150 in this example).
http://www.parking-prankster.com/case-law.html
So we have proof that a judge would have ruled for the defendant if this case came to court. I'm sure that similar PoPLA appeals could be found where the PoPLA appeal had been in favour of the motorist.
We therefore have proof positive that if the motorist had not been prevented from appealing by ARVAL, they would have won their case. So, in addition to ARVAL never being liable for the charge so had no business paying it, the driver/keeper would not have been liable either.
This information should be sent to the BVRLA with copies to ARVAL.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks0
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