Being screwed by council tax

Great_Bitain

Hello & thanks for your replies.

Well, I never! look how corrupt these people are.
WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL & GUILDFORD MAGISTRATES COURTS ARE CORRUPT TO THE CORE!

The Council in question is WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL.(WBC)
I will name them in order to SHAME them.

They have gone behind my back & obtained a Liability Order, FOR THOUSANDS OF POUNDS from GUILDFORD MAGISTRATES COURTS for Council Tax money that I do NOT owe them.
After confronting the Council Tax Officers & standing my ground & providing them with proof of my email & receipts, it now conspires that in fact THEY owe me money as a refund, ...just like I have been telling them for months.
WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL have also admitted that when they applied for the Liability Order, it was THEM(WBC) who sent out the Court Hearing dates to me & not the Courts!!!
How is that even possible???
How does Woking Borough Council know what dated the Courts will be available to hear my Case???
Is this not CONFLICT OF INTEREST???
The people who are claiming money by lies, deception & fraud are the same people who are pretending to issue court dates??? !!!!!!!!!

Woking Borough Council & Guildford Magistrates Courts have made a deal , behind locked doors, to screw us people with their lies & theft of revenue.
Guildford Magistrates Courts, will NOT reply to my emails requesting information on this FRAUD they have committed with WBC. They now play the DUMB game &...SILENCE.

WBC & GUILDFORD MAGISTRATES COURTS DID NOT SEND OUT THE HEARING DATES TO ME.
I live alone, in the property & I did not receive any Court warrants telling me that a trial or a hearing had been set for any dates. I received NO communications regarding my trial from Woking Borough Council or the Guildford Magistrates Court.
Otherwise I would have attended the trial as I have managed to prove to WBC that I do NOT owe the any money & they owe me money as a refund/overpayment.
WBC & Guildford Magistrates Courts cannot prove or provide any evidence that they sent out the trial/hearing dates, yet Guildford Magistrates Courts issued the Liability Order without seeing any proof that I owed any money. Just on the say so of their corrupt friends from WBC.

WBC, also tried to force me to pay the £87.50 Court costs, this is the same Court Costs that they did not send out a trial/hearing date for.

WBC also claimed that my Council Tax Support application was not handed into them until 11th July 2016. I then produced a WBC receipt, confirming that I actually handed in the application form on the 18th April 2016!

WBC have also send my ex-wife demands for Coucil Tax, even though she has moved out of the property over three years ago.
WBC have even sent out Council Tax demands to a property that we do NOT live in.

Now because WBC & Guildford Magistrates Courts have been caught red handed, trying to STEAL money from me, they ALL now hide behind their locked doors as.."UNAVAILABLE, UNAVAILABLE, UNAVAILABLE"!!!

I have been legally entitled to FULL 100% Council Tax discount from the date I became unemployed & starting to claim benefits, I have kept WBC fully informed of my situation, from day one, yet WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL & GUILDFORD MAGISTRATES COURTS TRIED TO STEAL THOUSANDS OF POUNDS FROM ME BY LIES, DECEPTION & FRAUD.

Shame on you CORRUPT, BENT PEOPLE from WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL & GUILDFORD MAGISTRATES COURTS.

DON'T EVER TRUST THESE SCUM BAGS.
I stand by everything I have stated, with PROOF.

Thank you.

dippy3103

The council block book the court for council tax liability orders so that's how they know when the court is available.

How have they got a liability order for thousands if you have paid up to December 15?

Think you need to calm down - with an attitude like that you will make things worse.

CIS

WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL have also admitted that when they applied for the Liability Order, it was THEM(WBC) who sent out the Court Hearing dates to me & not the Courts!!!

A court hearing date is agreed by the court in advance for council tax hearings and the council will then post the summons, on behalf of the court, showing the date and time. This is perfectly legal.

If a summons has been issued for several thousand across several years it's most likely because a discount/council tax reduction has been removed as the council have revised the entitlement to it - otherwise it wouldn't have built up so far before they took action. The situation sounds like they believe someone else is living in the property with you.

You need to sit down and work through the situation properly and work out what has happened and when.

poppasmurf_bewdley

[QUOTE=Great Bitain;71222481
I have been legally entitled to FULL 100% Council Tax discount from the date I became unemployed & starting to claim benefits, I have kept WBC fully informed of my situation, from day one, yet WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL & GUILDFORD MAGISTRATES COURTS TRIED TO STEAL THOUSANDS OF POUNDS FROM ME BY LIES, DECEPTION & FRAUD.

Shame on you CORRUPT, BENT PEOPLE from WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL & GUILDFORD MAGISTRATES COURTS.

DON'T EVER TRUST THESE SCUM BAGS.
I stand by everything I have stated, with PROOF.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

If you are of working age, I think you will find that you are NOT entitled to 100% Council Tax Discount. 100% CT Discount is now reserved for those of pension age.

The government changed the rules several years ago, allowing each local authority to set the amount of CT discount they give. They even changed the name to Council Tax Reduction.

Alice_Walker

poppasmurf_bewdley wrote: »

If you are of working age, I think you will find that you are NOT entitled to 100% Council Tax Discount. 100% CT Discount is now reserved for those of pension age.

The government changed the rules several years ago, allowing each local authority to set the amount of CT discount they give. They even changed the name to Council Tax Reduction.

Some LAs do still offer 100% reductions to working age claimants.

(The Woking website does suggest that those of working age and in receipt of less than the applicable amount are eligible for 100% reduction.)

teddysmum

I suggest going along to your local councillor's next surgery or, failing that email them to make an appointment to speak in person or over the phone and ask them to investigate on your behalf.


If they don't help, do the same with your MP, but do have all your evidence and be calm; raging and making accusations won't help.

mcjordi

poppasmurf_bewdley wrote: »

If you are of working age, I think you will find that you are NOT entitled to 100% Council Tax Discount. 100% CT Discount is now reserved for those of pension age.

The government changed the rules several years ago, allowing each local authority to set the amount of CT discount they give. They even changed the name to Council Tax Reduction.

I am of working age. not pension age and i get 100% CT reduction..

poppasmurf_bewdley

Great_Bitain wrote: »

Hi,
Can someone please offer some advise.
I have been receiving threatening demands for Council Tax for money that I clearly do not owe.
I have been a single person for over two years, have informed the Council by letter, email & application form, that I am living as a single person but they just pretend to play the dumb game & keep issuing demands for FULL Council Tax. I live alone in my own property.
I have paid my FULL Council Tax liability up to & including December 2015.

I was made unemployed in mid December 2015, claimed JSA until February 2016, then claimed Carers Allowance & Income Support. I have fully informed the Council of the situation but they seem to be total idiots in understanding the information I am giving them.

They have been sending me demands for the full council tax for over TWO years.
And even now, this year, when they know I am on Carers Allowance & Income Support they are demanding the full years Council Tax.( I have personally handed them the claim/award letters from CA & IS & the benefit application form).

Apparently, they went to Court( I DID NOT RECEIVE A COURT DATE/SUMMONS) & obtained a Court Order to remove my property if I did not pay this years full council tax & the last two years also!.
Had I received the summons I would have gone to Court & put all the evidence/proof in front of the courts, but this has happened behind my back.

Is it true that if I am in receipt of CARERS ALLOWANCE & INCOME SUPPORT I am 100% exempt form paying the Council Tax???
Also, last two years I have been living as a single person & have filled in application form to claim single person discount, but still the Council are demanding FULL payment???
Or will I still have this chain around my neck until I starve to death.

Can anyone offer some advise.:(

mcjordi wrote: »

I am of working age. not pension age and i get 100% CT reduction..

As Alice Walker states above, some councils do give 100% CT discount to their residents, so you must luckily live in one of these council areas.

However, from what you have written, you may be entitled to 100% discount but you are certainly not getting it. Isn't that what the whole problem is?

Great_Bitain

CIS wrote: »

A court hearing date is agreed by the court in advance for council tax hearings and the council will then post the summons, on behalf of the court, showing the date and time. This is perfectly legal.

"WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE COUNCIL DO NOT SEND OUT A HEARING DATE???
After all, its in their favor not to send out a trial date to their victim, is it not???
I live alone, so I would have received the TWO Summons.
One summons would have been sent to my ex-wifes name & the second on my name at the same address. I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY SUMMONS.
Woking Borough Council & Guildford Magistrates Courts can NOT provide ANY proof that the Summons were actually sent out...???" Yet, I have been found GUILTY.

If a summons has been issued for several thousand across several years it's most likely because a discount/council tax reduction has been removed as the council have revised the entitlement to it - otherwise it wouldn't have built up so far before they took action. The situation sounds like they believe someone else is living in the property with you.

"It is true that the full amount includes previous demands, which I have also proven that I do not owe.
I am a single person so claimed a discount for single occupancy, but the Council refused to believe that I am living alone. I informed them many time that I am living alone but no one took any notice & continued to demand the full Council Tax for over three years.
I then asked the Council to provide some proof/evidence of who they believe is living at the property & they refused to send a reply & continued to demand the full Council Tax".

You need to sit down and work through the situation properly and work out what has happened and when.

"This I have done now, as a re-trial of my case was again & again & again REFUSED by the Courts & WBC.
I have PROVEN to Woking Borough Council that in fact THEY owe me money because I paid too much. This I would have also proven to the Courts, if they allowed a FAIR TRIAL."

I also contacted WBC & Guildford Magistrates Courts, BY PHONE, EMAIL & LETTER & informed them that I did NOT receive a Summons to appear in Court & also filed a signed & stamped SATITUARY DECILARATION to confirm that I did not receive a Summons date & requested a re-trial, and again and again a re-trial was refused!

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY A RE-TRIAL, WAS AGAIN & AGAIN, REFUSED, EVEN THOUGH I DENIED OWING ANY MONEY, I DENIED RECEIVING A SUMMONS DATES & EVEN THOUGH I PUT IN A SIGNED & STAMPED SATITUARY DECILARATION ???

After demanding & harassing me for over three years, to the point of suicide, for more than £3700.00, WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL has finally admitted that in fact I am due a refund as I over paid on my Council Tax.
They have spent hundreds of pounds of public money in sending me threatening letters, Council Tax demands & Court Orders, when in fact I did not owe any money to them & they already had all the information from me.

I gave WBC ALL the information about myself, being single, living alone & on what benefits I was claiming from day one. I HAVE PROVEN THIS TO THE COUNCIL.
They even claimed(in their attempt to steal money from me) that I did not apply for Council Tax Benefits, for the year 2016/2017, until JULY 2016, this turned out to be another LIE, as I then put in front of them a WBC receipt confirming that my application was handed in on APRIL 2016.(within the official time limit).

Can someone please tell me how is it that even though I informed WOKING BOROUGH COUNCIL & GUILDFORD MAGISTRATES COURTS that I did not receive a Summons/Trial date & even after putting in a SIGNED & STAMPED(by me & a Solicitor)SATITUARY DECILARATION a re-trial of my case was REFUSED by both Woking Borough Council & Guildford Magistrates Courts???

GUILDFORD MAGISTRATES COURTS ARE NOW REFUSING TO REPLY TO ANY OF MY EMAILS, REQUESTING INFORMATION ON MY SO CALLED TRIAL & ARE NOW TOTALLY SILENT ON THIS MATTER.

As far as I am concerned a ONE SIDED, CORRUPT trial took place behind locked doors, without me even being there & I have been found guilty of non payment of Council Tax, that I have now 100% PROVEN I do NOT owe.

This is what happens when CORRUPT organisations conspire to steal money from innocent people.

Regards.
I stand by what I have said, with PROOF.

Ames

I think you mean statutory declaration.

Think about it for a minute. They do council tax court cases in batches of hundreds, possibly thousands. How many of those do you think try it on by saying they didn't get the summons?

If you keep sending the information to the same department and not getting a response, perhaps you should try a different department? Get your local councillor involved, see what help CAB can give you.

When you mention a solicitor, was that someone who specialises in benefits and could help you, or was it just a witness to you making a declaration?

If you're going to get anywhere with this you really need to stop the rants and accusations of corruption and go through the correct processes.