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BREXIT price rises

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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Tell me. Do you no longer differentiate between inward investment to build new facilities and your (even more) hated sort where foreigners come in and buy existing infrastructure like utilities.

    You can build elaborate strawmen all you like but if there's going to be a rush to build the former I'd ask why. If the UK is ideally placed to service the world ex EU they're no more or less ideally placed than a month ago. The status quo has been maintained.

    I'd quite like to buy a house or dividend yield for 10% off - I'm guessing plenty of foreigners will too.

    Do you think that total inward investment will increase, decrease or stay the same?

    Do you think the 'right' sort of inward investment will increase, decrease or stay the same?

    What is the 'right' sort of investment? Is it a strawman?

    I see that ARM is being bought out. Is this the right sort of investment or the wrong sort of investment?
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Do you think that total inward investment will increase, decrease or stay the same?

    Do you think the 'right' sort of inward investment will increase, decrease or stay the same?

    What is the 'right' sort of investment? Is it a strawman?

    I see that ARM is being bought out. Is this the right sort of investment or the wrong sort of investment?

    Have you just had your question machine serviced?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Have you just had your question machine serviced?

    I guess discussing real economic questions is a little more difficult that mindlessly insulting over half the referendum voters.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I guess discussing real economic questions is a little more difficult that mindlessly insulting over half the referendum voters.

    ..being constantly interrogated isn't a discussion. It's being Claptoned.

    You're someone who knows exactly 'what isn't' but slightly more coy about expressing 'what is'.

    Not sure who I've insulted. Higher import costs were a reasonable expectation following a Brexit vote. Some people might consider this, hopefully short term, cost to be worth it.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    ..being constantly interrogated isn't a discussion. It's being Claptoned.

    You're someone who knows exactly 'what isn't' but slightly more coy about expressing 'what is'.

    Not sure who I've insulted. Higher import costs were a reasonable expectation following a Brexit vote. Some people might consider this, hopefully short term, cost to be worth it.

    It'll be short to medium term at most.

    During the pre-amble towards article 50 and during the 2 year period yes import costs will be higher. But once the EU common customs tariff disappears there's a price reduction in acquiring items from the rest of the world to be had.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    It'll be short to medium term at most.

    During the pre-amble towards article 50 and during the 2 year period yes import costs will be higher. But once the EU common customs tariff disappears there's a price reduction in acquiring items from the rest of the world to be had.

    I'd say it will be short term if only because the price increases will drop out of the calculation after a year or so.

    It's speculation of course as is any assertion that (a) we'll be importing more from the rest of the world and (b) it'll be any cheaper.

    I really see very little change in how much fresh produce we import from the EU. Would you rather rely on imports from the EU or Egypt, Israel and Turkey?
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    edited 18 July 2016 at 9:02PM
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    what a vindictive person : one might think a natural McDonnell supporter

    I am not vindictive I am a realist. It will have to get very bad for me to suffer any significant consequences. Just pointing out that I have little sympathy with those who voted for Brexit who now are beginning to find how it will affect them personally. Boris, Gove, Stuart and Leadsom will do just nicely out of Brexit.

    It is the poor and those on fixed incomes who will suffer. If they voted Remain I have every sympathy with them but that will not help them.

    I think the really vindictive people were those in the waning years of their life who ignored the views of the younger generation.

    As to McDonnel, I had never heard of him until Corbyn made him Shadow Chancellor. It really does not matter what sort of person he is because he will never be part of a Labour Government. Any vindictiveness will be trained on his internecine battles with those who realise that a vision without power is an illusion. He will get a minor credit for reducing the Labour Party to the importance of the SWP (however many people he attracts to join it).
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    I am not vindictive I am a realist. It will have to get very bad for me to suffer any significant consequences. Just pointing out that I have little sympathy with those who voted for Brexit who now are beginning to find how it will affect them personally. Boris, Gove, Stuart and Leadsom will do just nicely out of Brexit.

    It is the poor and those on fixed incomes who will suffer. If they voted Remain I have every sympathy with them but that will not help them.

    I think the really vindictive people were those in the waning years of their life who ignored the views of the younger generation.

    As to McDonnel, I had never heard of him until Corbyn made him Shadow Chancellor. It really does not matter what sort of person he is because he will never be part of a Labour Government. Any vindictiveness will be trained on his internecine battles with those who realise that a vision without power is an illusion. He will get a minor credit for reducing the Labour Party to the importance of the SWP (however many people he attracts to join it).




    people voted for what they perceived was the best interest of themselves, their children and their grandchildren and the country in general : possibly just like you.

    Whether they are right or wrong only time will provide an indication

    your post seemed to wish harm on the people of the UK just to proof
    Those hardest hit will be those least able to cope with the increases, But if they voted Leave then they deserve little sympathy if they now complain about the impact.

    the poor will benefit from higher wages when the flow of cheap labour dries up: people of fixed incomes are fairly few and many are rich.

    People with experience of life and have seen many different economic and political periods and voted for what they thought was best.

    Possibily the Labour party is 'benefiting' from those young inexperinced people that you admire so much : we will see how that works out.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    I think the really vindictive people were those in the waning years of their life who ignored the views of the younger generation.

    The younger generation should have actually voted if they wanted their views to be represented.
  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    edited 18 July 2016 at 10:30PM
    BobQ wrote: »

    I think the really vindictive people were those in the waning years of their life who ignored the views of the younger generation.

    .

    Go tell that to the greek youth with 50% unemployment.

    Or does your European sympathy not really stretch further than these shores ?

    It is failing young people all across the continent and with that evidence you conclude I have voted anti youth ..I struggle to work that one out ?

    Or are you just being another bad loser .
    Get over yourself ,your bemoaning a fact is becoming tiresome .
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