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THE Prepping thread - a new beginning :)

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  • blindman
    blindman Posts: 5,673 Forumite
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    A very interesting article in the Telegraph today suggests that Russia is actively looking for ways to bring the UK to a halt by targeting the energy supply and cutting off imports from Europe not by turning off the pipelines but by destroying them! Predictions of thousands and thousands of deaths too just to make it more dramatic. I think if there is a single grain of truth in the prediction that NOW is the time to preach the prepping gospel to those we hold near and dear and to look seriously at what our own personal take on preparedness is and make additions/amendments to our own. They predict total chaos if this should come to fruition and that cyber disruptions will occur across the board too just to add to the fun. Don't we live in potentially interesting times folks???

    Don't believe anything you read in the newspapers :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • GreyQueen
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    :) I feel that when the meeja are going LOOK! There's a bogeyman! that it's a very good time to cast a jaundiced eye over our own country's ruling caste. For that is where the worst enemies of the majority of people are to be found and, when they and their presstitutes are fingerpointing at scary foriegners, it is a good time to double-down on our native barstewards. They're up to something and you can bet your rapidly-devaluing pound that it's not going to be good for the majority of us.

    If memory serves, it wasn't the russkies who destroyed the economies of large swathes of the UK with a thoughness not achieved by two world wars. I don't think the kremlin gets to legislate in either houses of parliament on the laws that do us down. Besides, reds-under-the-beds is so passe, darlings.

    I was reading an article somewhere recently about resilience and it pointed out that some societies are more resilient than others. You cannot realistically seize and control individual houses' woodpiles. Or their home-scaled wind and water turbines. Or their allotments, veggie patches and hen houses. Or their non-cash savings. It would take an awful lot of boots on the ground to even try.

    You can seize control of central power supply, or render it temporarily ususable. You can block imports of tankers of LPG coming up from the middle east. You can put malware into water companies' systems and turn off the taps.

    Prudent people always ask themselves; Why are we being told this at all? Why are we being told this right now? Who benefits, who loses, where is the money?
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  • Witless
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    jk0 wrote: »
    Cripe. That's all the more reason not to destroy our coal power stations.

    Hmmmm

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42826175
  • jk0
    jk0 Posts: 3,479 Forumite
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    Witless wrote: »

    More madness that I am sorry to read about. So Northern Ireland is closing coal stations to import dirtier still electricity from the Republic that is generated from peat?

    Do you guys ever get the impression the politicians aren't on our side?
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    Do you guys ever get the impression the politicians aren't on our side?
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    OOOO goodness me jk0 - imagine even thinking that! I'm shocked at you! :D:D:D
  • DigForVictory
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    My father opines that "a red under the bed is an extra heat source" and in the cold, to be tolerated so long as said red neither snores nor nicks your vodka. He lived in Russia for a year & on matters of keeping warm is pretty reliable.

    M'mother prefers a scarlet hwb... (Not that she ever declares a preference for husband, hwb or the cat, but the hwb is more cooperative.)
  • maryb
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    Years ago when we bought our stove, I told DH we would be warm even if Putin turned off the gas. He smiled tolerantly but the main thing is he went along with it which I know means he thought I was right to have a contingency plan
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
  • Karmacat
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    GreyQueen wrote: »
    I was reading an article somewhere recently about resilience and it pointed out that some societies are more resilient than others. You cannot realistically seize and control individual houses' woodpiles. Or their home-scaled wind and water turbines. Or their allotments, veggie patches and hen houses. Or their non-cash savings. It would take an awful lot of boots on the ground to even try.

    You can seize control of central power supply, or render it temporarily ususable. You can block imports of tankers of LPG coming up from the middle east. You can put malware into water companies' systems and turn off the taps.

    Prudent people always ask themselves; Why are we being told this at all? Why are we being told this right now? Who benefits, who loses, where is the money?
    Yep, those are the questions, and the decentralisation in the first paragraph is the answer :) thanks GQ, well put as usual.
    2023: the year I get to buy a car
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    Spot on - Britain of the 1930s would have been far more able to cope than now. And I think it's a bit rich of people in govt yelling that Russia could kill thousands by turning off the gas - it was not Russia who scrapped the storage tanks we had here, it was our govt! Probably because they wanted to sell the land they were sitting on .. left us at the end of the pipeline very vulnerable to anything that happens. No bloody sense at all!
    I think we up here have a pipeline to Norway and would negotiate a separate deal with them if we had to, and England would have to haggle with France or Holland and either way the price would be sky high and guess who would have to pay :mad:
  • GQ, you're probably spot on with that; have you read 'The Shock Doctrine'?
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