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Excel PCN from 2013, new letter from BW Legal- help!

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  • LoveNorfolk
    LoveNorfolk Posts: 193 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2016 at 6:47PM
    This letter is simply a no to the complaint. I will chase up the CSA tomorrow and see what they say. Either way I am still disputing the balace. They have sent photos of the car, but there is no evidence of the signs or anything to prove what a restricted area is or that the car wa parked in such an area. This would be something I would be requesting when next contacting them.
  • LoveNorfolk
    LoveNorfolk Posts: 193 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2016 at 6:52PM
    Ah bless, they didn't like that I complained to the CSA rather than pay them the money they aren't entitled to. This is all I've had, so will no doubt have more letters after the 14 days have passed and I don't reply. Interesting they are quoting Beavis when it is completely unrelated. Be Elliot V Loake next!

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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Now report them to the SRA for mentioning Beavis.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • LoveNorfolk
    LoveNorfolk Posts: 193 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2016 at 7:33PM
    The_Deep wrote: »
    Now report them to the SRA for mentioning Beavis.
    Is that because it isn't related to this case? I would need to look into their code of practice to see how to complain. Which looking at it, doesn't seem as straight forward as the CSA, it's hard to see something that could relate, I'd need to look further.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Yes, point out the differences, (residential, poor signs, no commercial interest, PPC not paying the landowner £52,000 for farming rights), and copy it to BWL. Hopefully they will realise that they have chosen the wrong marine and look for easier prey.

    Remember, once it gets to court things change. They have to make their case to a judge, not a wet behind the ears newly qualified law graduate at PoPLA. Also if it gets to court remind the solicitor of the penalty for unreasonable behaviour, (CPR27.14(2)(g).


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    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • The_Deep wrote: »
    Yes, point out the differences, (residential, poor signs, no commercial interest, PPC not paying the landowner £52,000 for farming rights), and copy it to BWL. Hopefully they will realise that they have chosen the wrong marine and look for easier prey.

    Remember, once it gets to court things change. They have to make their case to a judge, not a wet behind the ears newly qualified law graduate at PoPLA. Also if it gets to court remind the solicitor of the penalty for unreasonable behaviour, (CPR27.14(2)(g).


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    Thanks, so that's all I need to do to the SRA? Complain that they are using an unrelated case in an attempt to scare? The signs were poor though as they are approx 8ft up in the photos, so will do other differences. He was in a free car park anyway!

    First thing is to ring the CSA tomorrow, then it's what I do to reply to BW as I am not satisifed with their response to my complaint. I gather I could say as much and say due to this and their mentioning of Beavis I have complained to the SRA as mentioned I would in my letter to them?
  • What's the commercial interest bit and is farming rights them not paying the landowner for monies they have recovered? Thanks so much.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,402 Forumite
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    Beavis was about an overstay in a free car park with only time restrictions - a 'complex contract' according to the Law Lords. Nothing to do with alleged 'obstructive parking' in a restricted area.

    In fact they clarified matters later in the day with an official tweet.
    Parking charge “neither extravagant nor unconscionable… taking into account use of this particular car park & clear wording of the notices”
    *my bold*

    https://mobile.twitter.com/UKSupremeCourt/status/661846322417397760

    They'll be quoting Henry VIII next to have you beheaded!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2016 at 8:26PM
    Owning the land is a commercial interest. PE pay the landowner £52,000 a year to "manage" the Beavis car park. It is free for 2 hours with no facility to purchase extra time. It is also very well signed.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • The_Deep wrote: »
    Owning the land is a commercial interest. PE pay the landowner £52,000 a year to "manage" the Beavis car park.
    But I don't know if Excel do this?
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