Is the collapse of the EU now the best bet for the UK

DTDfanBoy

I can't help but think that the EU disintegrating in the near future, ie the next couple of years, is now our best chance of minimising the damage which is currently being done to our economy.

What are your views fellow MSE'rs

Crashy_Time

EZ was breaking up anyway, Brexit just speeds the process IMO, especially if we are seen to do OK. There will be some very very angry people in the inner sanctums of the EU at the moment.

Spidernick

DTDfanBoy wrote: »

I can't help but think that the EU disintegrating in the near future, ie the next couple of years, is now our best chance of minimising the damage which is currently being done to our economy.

What are your views fellow MSE'rs

That this is a very selfish attitude!

spadoosh

Dont think the UK needs the EU to fail to make a success of itself. I just think the EU will fail irrespective of what the UK does. If/when it does fail it will cost us im sure, cant see it destroying us and we always rebuild stronger.

chucknorris

DTDfanBoy wrote: »

I can't help but think that the EU disintegrating in the near future, ie the next couple of years, is now our best chance of minimising the damage which is currently being done to our economy.

What are your views fellow MSE'rs

Wouldn't that cause a recession all over Europe, if not globally?

Grenage

While I don't think that the EU will collapse, and I believe we are the only losers in leaving...

I think we can be reasonably confident that there isn't an economy out there that wouldn't be affected negatively.

Mistermeaner

you get rich by helpingh your neighbours be rich as they buy stuff from you. a collapse of the EZ would impact the EU economies and therefore our own

mrginge

Mistermeaner wrote: »

you get rich by helpingh your neighbours be rich as they buy stuff from you. a collapse of the EZ would impact the EU economies and therefore our own

I look forward the the EU working with us through this period of uncertainty then and agreeing to a sensible compromise trade deal and exit plan.

Mistermeaner

impact on them of a brexit is less than the impact on us - they have the bargaining chips (which is why it was pretty f'ing stupid to leave)

Plus they have additional vested interest in making it painful for us so as to prevent others leaving (which is another reason it was f'ing stupid to vote leave and then negotiate from outside rather than drive change from within)

as another poster recently said

idiots

CLAPTON

we need free trade between all the countries of europe and the surrounding areas.
this will enrich all the areas concerned.
this may mean the 'EU' will no longer exist but the major trade benefits can continue without the down side
the southern european states could flourish once again
and it would be in our interest too.

CLAPTON

Mistermeaner wrote: »

impact on them of a brexit is less than the impact on us - they have the bargaining chips (which is why it was pretty f'ing stupid to leave)

Plus they have additional vested interest in making it painful for us so as to prevent others leaving (which is another reason it was f'ing stupid to vote leave and then negotiate from outside rather than drive change from within)

as another poster recently said

idiots

it is a faux argument to say that there is a greater impact on us than them
-firstly they can't respond by making new trade deals as it will take them 5-10 years to react to change.
-although overall, the EU is much larger, trade isn't evenly spread. I don't the people of bavaria will welcome losing their jobs for the grater good of the EU nor I think will their local politicians.
-overall the EU economy is in much worse shape than the UK

the idea we are better to negotiate from within : well we have been inside for 40 years without effecting change and reform.

to continuing doing the same for 40 years and hoping for a better outturn next time is less than intelligent.