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The thread for pointless arguments about Brexit

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  • mystic_trev
    mystic_trev Posts: 5,434 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    Yet.............................................

    Hmmm....and what about the FTSE dropping 20% after Brexit?
    Nearly £350bn could be wiped off the value of Britain’s top companies in the event of a vote for the UK to leave the European Union, analysts at UBS have warned.

    In a note to clients, the bank said the FTSE 100 could fall as low as 4900 in the worst case situation after a Brexit vote, the lowest level since the height of the eurozone crisis in 2011.

    But if the UK votes to remain in Europe, UBS says the leading index could climb as high as 6800. The FTSE 100 currently stands at 6245.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/marketforceslive/2016/jun/22/ftse-100-could-lose-up-to-350bn-in-brexit-vote-says-ubs

    Currently 6577
  • chucknorris
    chucknorris Posts: 10,793 Forumite
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    I'm very pleasantly surprised at that, although I'm holding my breath about London property prices, I suspect that I might have to retain my properties for a bit longer than I had planned on. But I'm hoping that I might be wrong about that too.
    Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop
  • chris_m
    chris_m Posts: 8,250 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    And pigs will fly throughout the land

    God I hope not - I have enough trouble with seagulls carping on my car :rotfl:
  • justme111
    justme111 Posts: 3,531 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    exactly, far too many people imagine an increasing population adds to the pressure of public services and jobs but forgets they also contribute to them.

    Nobody is complaining that the lines in Tesco are getting unbearable with the population at +500,000 from last year. They clearly innately understand that people pay for their food and Tesco can expand its service with a growing population. The same is true for schools and hospitals and any public service.
    The difference is that people do not pay for using hospitals and increased demand is not matched by increased spending but the opposite of it - cuts in public services.
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
  • rlc22
    rlc22 Posts: 385 Forumite
    Positive:

    We may never have any more referendums.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    rlc22 wrote: »
    Positive:

    We may never have any more referendums.

    although I wouldn't agree, many might see a positve that there will be fewer posts on the forums extrolling the Swiss political system with all those referendums
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    Very good for umbrella sales then!

    I would of thought they would be at a peak due to all the cr*p that has been falling from Brexit birds.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • Jason74
    Jason74 Posts: 650 Forumite
    justme111 wrote: »
    The difference is that people do not pay for using hospitals and increased demand is not matched by increased spending but the opposite of it - cuts in public services.

    Absolutely right. And I would respectfully suggest that it is this failure to plan for the demand that is the problem, rather than the demand itself. And given that this is something thta is the responsibility of the UK Government rather than the EU, those voting to leave on that basis have basically scored a bullseye on the wrong target.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    justme111 wrote: »
    The difference is that people do not pay for using hospitals and increased demand is not matched by increased spending but the opposite of it - cuts in public services.

    people pay taxes- if the money does not get spent on services it is nor the fault of the immigrants.

    If Tesco just said, let them queue, they wold lose customers. The difference is that HMG are a monopoly service provider.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    edited 1 July 2016 at 9:49PM
    justme111 wrote: »
    The difference is that people do not pay for using hospitals and increased demand is not matched by increased spending but the opposite of it - cuts in public services.


    people do pay via their taxes. its a choice if you want to spend that extra tax on hospitals or not

    migrants make a much bigger contribution than most people realise as they allow locals to be pushed up the skills and pay scale
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