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EU: No concessions for UK on single market

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  • System
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    Why would companies trading in the UK headquarter themselves on the other side of a trade barrier (if we have one)?
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    If anything they'll try to headquarter here now
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  • Scarpacci
    Scarpacci Posts: 1,017 Forumite
    A clear display of how the EU elite are blinded their by commitment to their ill-advised political union. They have and continue to put this grand European project about the needs of their people. Having no trade deal with the UK will be bad for exporters on the continent, especially in Germany. Will they risk that just to protect a crumbling system of political union? This may have worked in the '90s but can not work now with such disparate economies. Their grandiose schemes and empire building are what will bring this crashing down around them.

    I hope when we get a government to speak for Britain they will make clear that uncontrolled migration with no checks, no balances, no barriers is a red line for us. We voted out of a political union. Free movement of labour is a political construct, not an economic one. There is no good reason to tie free movement to a trading bloc.
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  • Kohoutek
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    Why would companies trading in the UK headquarter themselves on the other side of a trade barrier (if we have one)?

    Because many companies use the UK as a gateway to sell products / services to the rest of the EU (ie they do more business in the EU excluding the UK than just the UK).

    Several are now actively considering relocating, e.g. Vodafone (employs 13,000 people in the UK).
  • posh*spice
    posh*spice Posts: 1,398 Forumite
    Kohoutek wrote: »
    Because many companies use the UK as a gateway to sell products / services to the rest of the EU (ie they do more business in the EU excluding the UK than just the UK).

    Several are now actively considering relocating, e.g. Vodafone (employs 13,000 people in the UK).

    So boycott their goods
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  • Kohoutek
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    Scarpacci wrote: »
    A clear display of how the EU elite are blinded their by commitment to their ill-advised political union. They have and continue to put this grand European project about the needs of their people. Having no trade deal with the UK will be bad for exporters on the continent, especially in Germany. Will they risk that just to protect a crumbling system of political union? This may have worked in the '90s but can not work now with such disparate economies. Their grandiose schemes and empire building are what will bring this crashing down around them.

    I hope when we get a government to speak for Britain they will make clear that uncontrolled migration with no checks, no balances, no barriers is a red line for us. We voted out of a political union. Free movement of labour is a political construct, not an economic one. There is no good reason to tie free movement to a trading bloc.

    Freedom moment of labour is a fundamental principle of the EU. They will not abandon it just to accommodate an EU member who has told the rest of the EU to !!!! off.
  • Kohoutek
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    posh*spice wrote: »
    So boycott their goods

    And how would that help?
  • Scarpacci
    Scarpacci Posts: 1,017 Forumite
    Kohoutek wrote: »
    Freedom moment of labour is a fundamental principle of the EU. They will not abandon it just to accommodate an EU member who has told the rest of the EU to !!!! off.
    It's a fundamental principle of a failed political union. Its demise was not brought about by Britain but by their expansion to include vastly disparate economies.

    They don't have to abandon it for themselves. They just ought to find a mutually beneficial way to trade with their soon-to-be biggest independent trading partner in Europe without attempting to impose such a foolish concept on us.

    What the trading arrangement looks like will be up to both sides to negotiate, but I hope free movement is an absolute red line for Britain.
    This is everybody's fault but mine.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Scarpacci wrote: »
    A clear display of how the EU elite are blinded their by commitment to their ill-advised political union. They have and continue to put this grand European project about the needs of their people. Having no trade deal with the UK will be bad for exporters on the continent, especially in Germany. Will they risk that just to protect a crumbling system of political union? This may have worked in the '90s but can not work now with such disparate economies. Their grandiose schemes and empire building are what will bring this crashing down around them.

    I hope when we get a government to speak for Britain they will make clear that uncontrolled migration with no checks, no balances, no barriers is a red line for us. We voted out of a political union. Free movement of labour is a political construct, not an economic one. There is no good reason to tie free movement to a trading bloc.

    I hope the sabre rattlers on both sides will be kept well away from negotiations.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    posh*spice wrote: »
    So boycott their goods

    Brilliant! Make it an easier decision for them to leave and take those jobs with them. You are a genius!
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