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EU - why do we need trade agreement with it instead of agreements with individual cou

I may miss something - we seem to trade with countries that are not in the EU ok ( USA , China and so on). Why are politicians and media talk about agreement with the EU as an entity as the only possible solution? Why not to arrange agreements with individual eu countries?
The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Maybe you should've thought about the answer to this question before voting leave.
    International trade was one of the first sectors in which EU Member States agreed to pool their sovereignty. As a consequence, they mandated the Commission with responsibility for handling trade matters, including negotiating international trade agreements on their behalf. In other words the EU, acting as a single entity, negotiates, on behalf of all its Member States, both bilateral and multilateral trade agreements.

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/atyourservice/en/displayFtu.html?ftuId=FTU_6.2.1.html
  • stator
    stator Posts: 7,441 Forumite
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    Because I shouldn't think they are allowed to. The EU single market is quite protective. They don't want one country signing a free trade deal and then tonnes of goods being shipped through that country to all other member states for free.
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  • HiToAll
    HiToAll Posts: 1,297 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    Maybe you should've thought about the answer to this question before voting leave.



    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/atyourservice/en/displayFtu.html?ftuId=FTU_6.2.1.html

    Why would leave voters do a silly think like that. Take back control.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    HiToAll wrote: »
    Why would leave voters do a silly think like that. Take back control.

    What's the plan? What comes next?

    The idiots won so what now?
  • System
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Maybe you should've thought about the answer to this question before voting leave.

    I actually just laughed and then put my head in my hands.

    I'm still at a loss as to how this has been allowed to happen.
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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Maybe you should've thought about the answer to this question before voting leave.



    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/atyourservice/en/displayFtu.html?ftuId=FTU_6.2.1.html

    so will now be allowed to set our own tariff and non tariff barriers to trade
    we could e.g. allow tariff free trade now if we so wished.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    so will now be allowed to set our own tariff and non tariff barriers to trade
    we could e.g. allow tariff free trade now if we so wished.

    Would, could and wishing isn't a plan but yes.

    We won't be negotiating with individual EU countries because the Commission negotiates on behalf of them all as a single entity. Maybe I'm over-labouring the point that some leave voters didn't think this through.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Would, could and wishing isn't a plan but yes.

    We won't be negotiating with individual EU countries because the Commission negotiates on behalf of them all as a single entity. Maybe I'm over-labouring the point that some leave voters didn't think this through.

    we can trade with individual EU countries without any 'deal'

    You are very astute to notice that we didn't have a 'leave' government in power before the vote, and that the civil service etc did not draw up 'leave' plans.

    a shocking failure of the 'remain' government but that is where we are.
  • Aliliva
    Aliliva Posts: 178 Forumite
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    I may miss something - we seem to trade with countries that are not in the EU ok ( USA , China and so on).

    UK is currently trading fine with those countries because of the trade agreement between the EU (of which UK is still part) and the third parties countries. In simple words, for the sake of trading, the EU behaves like one single country.

    Following the Brexit, the UK will have to:
    - Sign up a deal with the EU
    - Sign up deals with the rest of the world (some other 100s countries) or trade with them under the WTO rules

    So, nothing impossible to do, just time and money consuming. And, from my personal point of view, the earlier they start the better, to put an end to the market uncertainties :)
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  • justme111
    justme111 Posts: 3,531 Forumite
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    Something does not add up. All the countries in the world that EU trades with do not have agreement of free movement with the EU. How come Britain would be required to have it?
    Could someone quote the source of information stating no country which is in the EU is allowed to have trade deals with any other country individually as it is hard to believe.
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
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