How much noise is too much noise and reasonable times.

tomtontom

dekaspace wrote: »

So I can plan around it so it doesnt disturb me.

Would you really?, or is that just a way to make you sound great.

Its so one off that I have heard DIY for months on and off waking me at 7am, especially 4 days straight when he was putting in flooring.

But I guess thats ok as its "one offs (or four offs)

Im so sorry that hearing banging and crashing on regular occasions is me moaning especially when I am trying to be polite.

I guess then you think its ok for me to blast out music as "one offs"

So easy to make claims on a website.

What is it that you cannot do while the noise is there? It's an hour in the middle of the day, not the middle of the night.

And yes, I would always help my neighbour out, it's just what decent people do. In the next few days I'm painting my gates, so I'll do hers at the same time.

dekaspace

tomtontom wrote: »

What is it that you cannot do while the noise is there? It's an hour in the middle of the day, not the middle of the night.

And yes, I would always help my neighbour out, it's just what decent people do. In the next few days I'm painting my gates, so I'll do hers at the same time.

The noise is at a level where its very piercing, I could have my tv on loud and still it would be muted out by the noise, I suffer from anxiety too but even without that its at a level where I don't joke and it sounds like thunderstorms, I have lived in many properties over the years and the drilling and such sounds from upstairs are at a far higher level than anywhere else and the previous tenant when she used a drill you barely heard muffled sounds, this sounds like its right beside you.

I assume its worse due to the wooden floors.

I have never really had a neighbour offer help even when dragging too many bags I can barely walk, or I have moved old furniture downstairs when getting new stuff and they just walk past as if nothing is happening even though I am struggling to stop the item from falling down the stairs and hitting a wall or killing me.

They also when dragging their furntiure out a few days ago have scraped the hallway in the corridors and stairs and it looks terrible and damaged the rubber on the edges of stairs even scraped some walls so I doubt they care too much about that.

HappyMJ

borkid wrote: »

Really when I used to go out to work I'd leave earlier and get back later especially with the commute as did my OH. He used to have spells when working at the weekend as well. So if he was single and worked when would he have been able to vacuum by your reckoning?

Employ a cleaner to vacuum during the day while you're at work... :money:

dekaspace

tomtontom wrote: »

The more this goes on the more you embellish your story, and the more unbelievable it gets.

Maybe your neighbours would show you more kindness if you offered a hand to them first? Or you can just continue moaning and getting nowhere ...

So they never offer a hand to me and I am the one who has a problem for not offering it to them?

I think you lack basic understanding of a lot of things, if I mention too much you will look for faults, if I mention little then later add more you will act like its fake either way you will come in and like to act like you have the high ground.

Why bother ever responding to threads when all you do is start arguments?

borkid

HappyMJ wrote: »

Employ a cleaner to vacuum during the day while you're at work... :money:

Brilliant idea as at the time we were trying to save for a house deposit and there was no spare money for a cleaner and we never disturbed our neighbours because I was at home at the weekends. I was saying if he were single. Anyway vacuuming up to 10 pm isn't a problem in my opinion.

Re all the other comments of it's just a one off.

1 If someone is ill then 1hr early in the morning ie before 9am can cause serious sleep problems with some illnesses. Infact any sleep disturbance can be, but it's unreasonable to expect quite during the day.
2 What seems a trivial noise for some people can be unbearable for others ie those with tinitus for example.

No one answer fits all. Just talk to your neighbour and take it from their.

tomtontom

dekaspace wrote: »

So they never offer a hand to me and I am the one who has a problem for not offering it to them?

I think you lack basic understanding of a lot of things, if I mention too much you will look for faults, if I mention little then later add more you will act like its fake either way you will come in and like to act like you have the high ground.

Why bother ever responding to threads when all you do is start arguments?

I'm not starting an argument, I'm suggesting ways for you to help yourself.

Why would you not want to help out a neighbour?

HappyMJ

borkid wrote: »

2 What seems a trivial noise for some people can be unbearable for others ie those with tinitus for example.

If someone suffers from hyperacusis http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/hyperacusis/Pages/Introduction.aspx then why on earth would they rent/buy a flat with very little sound insulation.

missbiggles1

dekaspace wrote: »

Bit annoyed now but others may think its everyday noise, he has spent over a hour dragging furntiure from his old flat upstairs to downstaits, it really does sound think a thunderstorm lol.

I just get a little annoyed when he does his projects like diy or moving furniture he never thinks about telling me so I have to put up with the noise when I am trying to make an effort to make sure he can't hear noise from me.

It's the early afternoon, why shouldn't he do something noisy then and why should he ask you?

Perhaps if you'd popped out and offered him a hand he'd have made less noise and finished more quickly.

Oops, already been said.

dekaspace

missbiggles1 wrote: »

It's the early afternoon, why shouldn't he do something noisy then and why should he ask you?

Perhaps if you'd popped out and offered him a hand he'd have made less noise and finished more quickly.

He doesn't have to ask me, but he can politely mention that he has plans that way I can work around it such as go out.

But on the flip side if its early afternoon then I can pump up my speakers and not ask if hes ok with it?

If I have to be make compromises to make sure I don't disturb him he should do the same to at least minimise it.

Kids running around whilst they move furniture means they didn't minimise it (and potentially dangerous)

I saw the partner chuck bundles of stuff off the balcony whilst he and his young child were below, might not of been heavy stuff but its dangerous, I heard no noise though.

And he had no thought about putting up wooden flooring when he has kids that run about.

That however isn't me moaning but mentioning facts about things that have happened since he moved in.

I went out earlier and saw the partner on the stairs, I smiled and said hello and she didn't even respond or even smile.

I am of the mindset if something I have done has genuinely upset them that can be avoided and isn't an overreaction I will make steps to change it, I tolerate the kid running about and baby crying as I expect them to happen now and again as long as like when they first moved in its not crying for hours and sounds like toys getting chucked about and crashing onto the wooden floor but even then I tolerate it.

3 days straight of diy from 7am without even a polite mention they have it planned does annoy me as it meant hammering, sawing (inc clothes covered in dust they chucked over the side) and a quick knock on the door takes seconds, if I have something planned like moving furniture I tell neighbours incase it annoys them and if I get new furniture I ask if they want it or have any friends/family that want the old stuff.

But as said before compromise doesn't mean hours of drilling sawing and hammering is ok for them and I have to almost mute tv or wear headphones as to not disturb them as both have acceptable times.

borkid

HappyMJ wrote: »

If someone suffers from hyperacusis http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/hyperacusis/Pages/Introduction.aspx then why on earth would they rent/buy a flat with very little sound insulation.

I was just pointing out that different people react differently to noise. I have problems with children unnecessarily screaming, their parents don't seem to notice but maybe that's becasue they send them outside someone else's house to play. Before you say anything I have dealt with the problem.

I live in a detached house for this very reason I don't want excess noise and I want to play my music at the level I want and appreciate that most people won't have the same taste in music as I do.