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Abandoned Car on Overgrown Front Garden

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  • glasgowdan
    glasgowdan Posts: 2,968 Forumite
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    Wow, Money, that's random and confused even by your standards! Nobody is on the receiving end of anyone's conduct.

    What a weird discussion.
  • jbainbridge
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    I can understand the my your own business / nothing to do with you responses. However you're wrong.

    When you live next to someone like this it blights your property too. We used to live next to a guy - divorced - wife had walked out on him. He did nothing to the place in the 10 years we were there. Front and back gardens overgrown. Front garden filled with the rubbish his dog picked up while on walks - mainly hundreds of tennis balls.

    Live next to someone like that ... then try and sell your house. Not easy. Yes, they have every right to do that, but it effects other people's lives too. I'm not expecting a perfect garden, but cutting bushes down and not leaving rubbish out costs nothing.
  • Wow your mum could be describing my front garden minus the car.

    If any of my neighbours complained then they would be told that if they wanted to crack on they could but otherwise (politely) they could butt out
  • Davesnave
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    edited 16 June 2016 at 9:10AM
    I can understand the my your own business / nothing to do with you responses. However you're wrong.

    Live next to someone like that ... then try and sell your house. Not easy. Yes, they have every right to do that, but it effects other people's lives too.....
    We did live next to someone like that, on both sides, although as ours was a relatively posh road, the next-door properties weren't extreme, just stood out in the wrong sort of way.

    On one side a jilted accountant with unkempt garden, rusting windows and no idea about curtains, and on the other, a 'practical' couple with an orange bay window VW camper, gently rotting-away in the front garden. Both were affable enough on a personal level.

    But try to sell your house in the recession with those two assisting! We had feedback from the agents of cancelled viewings, and while we thought that silly, we understood.

    Ironically, the VW couple rode out the recession and sold for much more than we did three years later, but their reason for selling was a divorce caused mainly by his drinking. He was never in a fit state to renovate a vehicle, let alone save his job or marriage.

    The accountant is still there, probably still dyeing his greying hair and touring the nighclubs with his gold medallion swinging....

    Do we feel bitter? Not a bit. We've 5 acres of buffer zone now, with or in spite of their assistance.

    But a large plot must come to an end somewhere, and on one boundary we fall within the crossfire of two neighbours who aren't 'bestest friends.' Right there, one of them has dumped two scrap vehicles, just to spoil the view of the other..... He waves cheerfully to us, though!

    We've planted trees....about 80 of them. A few days ago, I noticed the cars are almost obscured. Looking on the bright side, at least rotting vehicles are very quiet and don't smell.
  • TheGardener
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    ... Yes, they have every right to do that...
    But do they though? What happened to a bit of mutual respect or am I sooo 'last generation' that that respect isn't a 'thing' anymore?
    So, the guy on night shift who sits at the desk you use in the day and sticks chewing gum under the seat - Hey - he's entitled to be a slob if he wants...The young lad next door who sits in his car with his engine running for an hour at midnight rowing with his girlfriend - hey - that's ok - maybe he's got 'issues' ...the guy next door who always empties his car ashtray in the gutter - hey what's it got to do with you - leave the guy alone - he's entitled to be a slob.
    Talk about victim shaming. The lady only asked if there was anything to be done about a guy who treats their neighbourhood with no respect. Well - call me old fashioned but...I think he's out of order and if that makes me some kind of obsessive old fart with too much time on my hands then hey - leave me alone, I'm entitled to think that way...I still think grown ups are responsible for their own actions and a bit of respect goes a long way as the glue that keeps a community together and functioning.
  • Ozzuk
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    Translation = just put up with it.:cool:.

    I've often thought that "modern day" theory I think is total nonsense is the theory that "just alter your reaction to something = all is sorted". Huh? If that were the case then I'm sure the poor s*ds in Auschwitz or the like a few decades ago were as "happy as laurie" if they just "had the right attitude". Yeh...right....of course they were (not!). Oh boy....

    If someone is treating you badly in some way that you havent deserved (whether through deliberate intention, selfishly pursuing their own personal agenda regardless or whatever else) then you are entitled to be aggrieved about it and try to do something about it.

    Lol. I know, lets send in the army to force him to tidy his garden.

    I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, I doubt the guy is setting out on a personal vendetta to destroy (or gas) the OPs mother. We simply don't know what he is going through and some times the path of least resistance is to look inside instead of looking out.
  • Person_one
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    I've often thought that "modern day" theory I think is total nonsense is the theory that "just alter your reaction to something = all is sorted". Huh? If that were the case then I'm sure the poor s*ds in Auschwitz or the like a few decades ago were as "happy as laurie" if they just "had the right attitude". Yeh...right....of course they were (not!). Oh boy....


    Nobody ever expects your posts to make any kind of sense, but surely even you can see that comparing the 'suffering' of a neighbour having an old car and overgrown grass with being in a concentration camp is completely insane, not to mention offensive?
  • Davesnave
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    I'm entitled to think that way...I still think grown ups are responsible for their own actions and a bit of respect goes a long way as the glue that keeps a community together and functioning.

    Of course, but it's hard to legislate for respect.

    There used to be token respect in this country, until education taught us that Jack was often as good as his master, or in many cases, even better!

    The other problem, thanks to personal mobility, is that communities are far more anonymous than they once were. Behaviour in my village is still generally very good, simply because everyone knows everyone, so there are consequences for being anti-social. However, some people still don't care; after all, they can jump in the car and socialise elsewhere.

    It's possible to have harsh rules and penalties if these have the backing of the people, but I doubt if the British would wholeheartedly support the sort of legislation enacted in places like Singapore.
  • TheGardener
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    edited 16 June 2016 at 11:00PM
    Davesnave wrote: »
    There used to be token respect in this country, until education taught us that Jack was often as good as his master, or in many cases, even better!

    I'm talking about respect for other people in your community regardless of their circumstances and means - not 'masters'
    The irony is this is a board is about buying and selling homes and I suspect that most of us actually want to live in a community where the glue is evident - where the community has some sort of cohesion based around a bit of collective responsibilityand respect and that sort of community is probably where most of us actually want to buy a house. I'm not talking about some sort of utopia - I'm talking about ordinary streets with ordinary people and I just don't see why its ok to let everyone else make your community pleasant without taking some responsibility to 'do your bit' even if your contribution is just to recognise that others around you try hard to keep things pleasant and all you have to do is mow the bl**dy front lawn occasionally (or pay someone else to do it)
    Anyway - as others have said - you cant legislate for it - but those dissing anyone who thinks that those values are worth upholding might just be the neighbours none of us want. Sorry - rant over :)
  • Davesnave
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    I'm talking about respect for other people in your community regardless of their circumstances and means - not 'masters'
    I was talking about people conforming to social norms, which stemmed ultimately from the hierarchical nature of past societies.

    I don't believe that people are inherently any more good or bad than they were in the past; just more able to act independently, and thus selfishly, when it suits them.
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