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Fencing nosy neighbour-long one!!

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  • EmmyLou30
    EmmyLou30 Posts: 599 Forumite
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    I think they mean Chimnea and not a chimney. They've not been advised to stop using a feature of their home but a garden accessory. Not meaning to get at you Dermonte, just clarifying for the benefit of others who might worry someone from the council is about to try and stop them using their wood burner in the lounge or something!

    I don't think it's reasonable to stop you using a BBQ or a chimnea myself unless it's a very small garden and a proper nuisance which it sounds like it is far from that in a 1 acre garden :-O You've just got unlucky with crazy neighbours :-(
  • mittens45
    mittens45 Posts: 6 Forumite
    Ah, a chimera! :rotfl: I was a bit concerned tbh- thinking the Council could stop you using your own chimney! Thank you for clarifying Emma Lou.:)
  • Agree with others put a 6 foot fence up and then put the house up for sale.


    I would be tempted to tell them you are selling to buy to let landlords
    I bet that will sharpen their minds when they realise they could end up with real problems.


    People who behave like this should be ashamed of themselves
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    mittens45 wrote: »
    Ah, a chimera! :rotfl:
    Brilliant! :A
  • dermonte
    dermonte Posts: 159 Forumite
    Lol yes a garden log burner whatever its called. Sorry couldnt reply before as I am at work and just on my break. Thanks for clarifying :T I am not using it anymore and its covered spiders in the garden. My other neighbours on side of other semi uses round one with a metal net on it. I told them what they did and he laughed, shrugged his shoulders and said just ignore it. Honestly we all have big gardens. Her garden is like forest though with so many trees covers her garden.
  • Clarified now - I think...

    Its not:
    a chimney
    a chimnea
    a chimera

    It's a CHIMINEA

    as per:

    https://www.tesco.com/direct/garden/chimineas/cat3375615.cat
  • phil24_7
    phil24_7 Posts: 1,535 Forumite
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    edited 16 June 2016 at 11:19PM
    dermonte wrote: »
    I know its nonsense but they wouldn't even listen to me when I called them to explain that its a chimney and we don't use it regularly like they claim and not bon fire like they claim. Honestly it says in the leaflet if a neighbour dispute even with a barbecue they can fine us. I should find that leaflet to show you lol but building work going on in my house and my kitchen is in my living room right now. So just forget it as it upsets me even talking about it.

    Sounds like it was more a leaflet on guidance. A council cannot ban you without some evidence of wrongdoing/nuisance/breaking smokeless zones rules, and this would need to be gathered over a period of time. You would then be informed that you have breached x rule(s) and be supplied with the evidence before being told that you must comply with x, y and z or face being taken to court whereupon you could be fined up to x amount.

    The council have fired a warning shot to try to calm any dispute. You should have fired back and said you are not breaking any laws, civil or criminal, you are just partaking in reasonable enjoyment of your garden.

    Did you contact the council via the number on the letter or from the internet? I once had a BIG bonfire in my garden and a neighbour a few doors down started swearing at me. I told him my door number an to come and complain in person but he declined. A week or 2 later I received a letter from the council with some gumph about smokeless zones (where I live there are no such thing), telling me to cease and desist. I didn't like the fact the envelope wasn't council stamped and the the letter was in black and white rather than colour. The number on the letter was not a council number so I called the council directly and the said they would never send a letter worded like the one I received and that they had no record of and complaints against my address. Some neighbours are sneaky little b******s...but I am sneakier!!!!
  • dermonte
    dermonte Posts: 159 Forumite
    phil24_7 wrote: »
    Sounds like it was more a leaflet on guidance. A council cannot ban you without some evidence of wrongdoing/nuisance/breaking smokeless zones rules, and this would need to be gathered over a period of time. You would then be informed that you have breached x rule(s) and be supplied with the evidence before being told that you must comply with x, y and z or face being taken to court whereupon you could be fined up to x amount.

    The council have fired a warning shot to try to calm any dispute. You should have fired back and said you are not breaking any laws, civil or criminal, you are just partaking in reasonable enjoyment of your garden.

    Did you contact the council via the number on the letter or from the internet? I once had a BIG bonfire in my garden and a neighbour a few doors down started swearing at me. I told him my door number an to come and complain in person but he declined. A week or 2 later I received a letter from the council with some gumph about smokeless zones (where I live there are no such thing), telling me to cease and desist. I didn't like the fact the envelope wasn't council stamped and the the letter was in black and white rather than colour. The number on the letter was not a council number so I called the council directly and the said they would never send a letter worded like the one I received and that they had no record of and complaints against my address. Some neighbours are sneaky little b******s...but I am sneakier!!!!
    Oh yes it said on the letter that my neighbour was instructed to take times and dates. I never did fire it again though. Honestly if she did come nicely, I would have apologise, put it out and wouldn't do it again. She was banging on my gate so hard and shouting her head off put it out, put it out!! Just rude in my opinion. They are housing association tenants and all their kids started getting boyfriends or going university. So hopefully she wont be there much longer unless government change the law and let people buy their rented housing association homes. I don't know if they can afford it as she was complaining she cant afford a washing machine.
  • phil24_7
    phil24_7 Posts: 1,535 Forumite
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    I would ignore...as would the council once her diary was handed in! It must be provable that you are causing a nuisance (this is a regular inconvenience meaning they can not enjoy their garden) once a month or even more than this is not a nuisance. Nor is one really big one once a year. You have just as much right to enjoy your garden as they do theirs and a chimnea is a perfectly acceptable thing to use occasionally in your own garden.
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