cyclists turned right when i overtook

buglawton

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Ahh, the old "Don't want to be responsible for squashing someone because insurance doesn't cover the guilt" instinct. Sadly seems to be missing in a lot of people nowadays.

Thoughts about insurance don't come into it for me. But the Highway Code does surprisingly contain a lot of rules about best practice.

Joe_Horner

buglawton wrote: »

Thoughts about insurance don't come into it for me. But the Highway Code does surprisingly contain a lot of rules about best practice.

I agree entirely, i just get frustrated with the number of people who seem to take the "I'm insured" attitude without realising that paying for the damage / injury doesn't actually put things right.

The (few) people I've known over the years who were involved in serious accidents have been unanimous that avoiding them in the first place is a whole lot better for everyone even if it does involve not enforcing "your rights" or causes minor inconvenience at the time.

kraken776

buglawton wrote: »

Many motorists have a bit of an instinct about not overtaking near junctions, mainly because you cannot predict if some idiot will lurch out of that junction in the middle of your manoeuvre.

Anyway I thought I'd see what Highway Code says:
"Do not overtake... approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road"
http://www.highwaycode.info/rule/167

So even if cyclist was wrong not to check his rear view and not signal, a court or insurer may look dimly at the OPs action. If cyclist was wearing a helmet cam it will clearly show if he failed to check rear view due to lack of head movement. Wonder what cyclists will do if challenged on that.

Last time I had an altercation overtaking a cyclist was that at the moment I started my overtaking manoeuvre, an impatient motorist behind me (who was aware we were both following a cyclist) decided to overtake me. Ever since then I've decided it's a good habit to signal before overtaking a cyclist.

I DID NOT overtake while approaching a junction
There is only one junction on that nearby and i had already gone past it at the time of the attempted overtake

custardy

kraken776 wrote: »

I DID NOT overtake while approaching a junction
There is only one junction on that nearby and i had already gone past it at the time of the attempted overtake

So where was the cyclist going?

Hypothetically

bigadaj

kraken776 wrote: »

I DID NOT overtake while approaching a junction
There is only one junction on that nearby and i had already gone past it at the time of the attempted overtake

So you did overtake?

bod1467

I had hoped, obviously somewhat forlornly, that this thread had died.

Joe_Horner

bod1467 wrote: »

I had hoped, obviously somewhat forlornly, that this thread had died.

Unlike the cyclist he ran over. Or didn't. Or might have done but if he did it was a perfectly safe running over ......

kraken776

custardy wrote: »

So where was the cyclist going?

Hypothetically

After the near miss he cycled along the pavement on the opposite side of the road going in the same direction he had been traveling in all along.

This is one of the benefits of actually not having an accident on this occasion.
Had I hit him it would have interrupted his course of conduct and I may never have discovered why he swerved for no apparent reason.
As it is i was able to observe his behavior afterwards and so learned that he did it so that he could get to the pavement on the other side of the road and cycle along that instead. This action of course requires an explanation in itself and i will never know why he wanted to do this.

kraken776

bigadaj wrote: »

So you did overtake?

I fail to see why you would ask that, all of the information is in my OP and amended by a later post.

No i did not overtake because his actions interrupted my attempt to overtake and afterwards he was cycling on the pavement on the other side of the road.

Fat_Walt

kraken776 wrote: »

I fail to see why you would ask that, all of the information is in my OP and amended by a later post.

No i did not overtake because his actions interrupted my attempt to overtake and afterwards he was cycling on the pavement on the other side of the road.

So why did you start this thread?