cyclists turned right when i overtook

kraken776

Aylesbury_Duck wrote: »

Quite simply, because you crashed into one of them.

bigadaj wrote: »

There have been a lot of hypotheticals in the OPs various versions.

If you are overtaking you really need to be clear of that lane, which wasn't the case here whether it's a bike or car shouldn't make much difference.

A bike or motorbike may vary their position in that lane, but in this case as is common the OP appears to have squeezed past in the same lane.

I have noticed that you have repeated the sentence which is in bold multiple times.

If you look at my OP you will notice that i have said

"I moved all the way over into the opposite lane for the overtake".

So no, you are wrong, everything you have said based on this is completely invalid.

kraken776

bigadaj wrote: »

s.It's appears he tried to 'nip past' and got can't out by a narrowing road and road furniture which led to the collision or not..

Nope

I attempted my overtake a very very long time before i reached the chicane.
the google map link i previously provided makes this clear.

Joe_Horner

Go. Away. Please.

Sicard

Yes, do as your mum tells you and do your homework and clear up your room.

buglawton

Many motorists have a bit of an instinct about not overtaking near junctions, mainly because you cannot predict if some idiot will lurch out of that junction in the middle of your manoeuvre.

Anyway I thought I'd see what Highway Code says:
"Do not overtake... approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road"
http://www.highwaycode.info/rule/167

So even if cyclist was wrong not to check his rear view and not signal, a court or insurer may look dimly at the OPs action. If cyclist was wearing a helmet cam it will clearly show if he failed to check rear view due to lack of head movement. Wonder what cyclists will do if challenged on that.

Last time I had an altercation overtaking a cyclist was that at the moment I started my overtaking manoeuvre, an impatient motorist behind me (who was aware we were both following a cyclist) decided to overtake me. Ever since then I've decided it's a good habit to signal before overtaking a cyclist.

Joe_Horner

buglawton wrote: »

Many motorists have a bit of an instinct about not overtaking near junctions

Ahh, the old "Don't want to be responsible for squashing someone because insurance doesn't cover the guilt" instinct. Sadly seems to be missing in a lot of people nowadays.

bigadaj

kraken776 wrote: »

Nope

I attempted my overtake a very very long time before i reached the chicane.
the google map link i previously provided makes this clear.

Surely you would have done, had you overtaken, which of course you didn't because you claim the incident didn't happen and this is a theoretical case of course.

Mercdriver

kraken776 wrote: »

Nope

I attempted my overtake a very very long time before i reached the chicane.
the google map link i previously provided makes this clear.

I'm confused. I thought the incident didn't happen?????

ElefantEd

I see Schroedinger's Cyclist has popped up again - has the OP got Quantum Insurance to cover both eventualities?

buglawton

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Ahh, the old "Don't want to be responsible for squashing someone because insurance doesn't cover the guilt" instinct. Sadly seems to be missing in a lot of people nowadays.

Thoughts about insurance don't come into it for me. But the Highway Code does surprisingly contain a lot of rules about best practice.