WASPI Campaign .... State Pensions

bmm78

Malthusian wrote: »

WASPI2 then, for those who aren't following. Or maybe we should distinguish them by their asks and call them "WASPI60" and "WASPI??". Or go a la Coke with "New WASPI" and "WASPI Classic".

Certainly looking more and more like they are going to have to settle for "WASPI Zero" rather than "WASPI Max"...

jamesd

Sambella wrote: »

so that a couple could retire together. Men were on average 5 years older than their wives. To large extent this is still true.

Women are not weak things who are incapable of working in most jobs just like men. A couple can retire whenever they want. All it takes is putting aside enough money to be able to afford it. So can single people, male or female. The rest of us should not be subsidising that lifestyle choice to retire sooner.

It's never been true that women are on average five years younger than their husbands, let alone in single gender marriages where both get to receive the state pension earlier. The real difference has typically been about two years and about two years before state pension age is also when people, make and female, tend to retire.

Pollycat wrote: »

My aunt who is 10 years older than me did that, and never worked again.

And of course that choice not to work is fine if the household can afford to have one covering the costs of the other, including providing properly for retirement at whatever time they wish. But a choice not to work is not justification for making the rest of us pay for it.

bmm78

Sambella wrote: »

Men were on average 5 years older than their wives. To large extent this is still true.

The issue is of course that this isn't true and hasn't been at any point in the 20th century.

http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/34801/1/PT120AgeDifference.pdf

jamesd

Interesting that by 2001 only 65% of marriages had an older husband. Also interesting that only a quarter of marriages between 1921 and 2001 had an age difference of 2-3 years.

Silvertabby

THE AIM OF THE CAMPAIGN IS: TO ACHIEVE FAIR TRANSITIONAL STATE PENSION ARRANGEMENTS FOR WOMEN BORN IN THE 1950S (BORN ON OR AFTER 6TH APRIL 1951)



This translates into a 'bridging' pension to cover the gap from age 60 until State Pension Age - not means-tested and with compensation for losses for those women who have already reached their SPA. There are no specific age groups within the period mentioned above that are favoured above others.

We do not ask for the pension age to revert back to age 60

” But they do say this

“ WASPI agrees with equalisation

Unbelievable - WASPI is saying that all women born on or before 31 December 1959 should get their State Pensions from 60 (whatever spin they put on it, that is what they are demanding) whereas all women born on or after 1 January 1960 can wait until they are 66/67/68 ("WASPI agrees with equalisation").

I think we all know which decade the WASPI ringleaders were born in!

mufi

"We do not ask for the pension age to revert back to age 60"


My problem is no longer with their campaign. It's with "revert back" on what it is, presumably, a public statement.:rotfl:


Tut Tut.


Mufi (b. 1953)

molerat

Our local rag is running the action day story. One of the organisers stating that all of a sudden her pension date has moved by six years - living under a rock for the past 21 years obviously.

Pollycat

molerat wrote: »

Our local rag is running the action day story. One of the organisers stating that all of a sudden her pension date has moved by six years - living under a rock for the past 21 years obviously.

Yes indeed.
"All of a sudden"
Just like the 'stories' recounted in the debates.
Shame on those duplicitous some.
I would be ashamed to ally myself with them & their cause.

Intoodeep

Pollycat wrote: »

Link:
http://www.waspi.co.uk/action

Apparently, according to the Derby Telegraph, they have Jeremy Corbyn's backing.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

molerat

Women born in the 1950s have said the changes mean they will lose up to £40,000 because they are unable to retire as early as they anticipated.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37388013

The campaign group Women Against State Pension Inequality (WASPI), which is holding demonstrations across Scotland, said retirement plans had been shattered with devastating consequences.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37376763