WASPI Campaign .... State Pensions

Intoodeep

Speaking as someone who has 2 female friends whose mothers died at 41 & 44 years of age, you could all be grateful that you have the chance of receiving your Pension whenever it is.

Sipowicz

Is there to be a sting in the tail?!

Mortgagefreeman

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

Having been kicked out in a bloodless coup, the WASPI three have now re grouped. They've started a Facebook page that actually allows people to comment and make suggestions, unlike the WASPI two who gag those that disagree with them.:rotfl:

The plot thickens!

WASPI Voice Angela Dean I can assure you that we had no part in the plan to split, the WASPI name belongs to all 5 co-founders and we have the same aims that WASPI has held previously, it is other factions that have suddenly taken the ask back to 60. This will never happen and they have sat in front of MPs and Ministers and been told this. We have to manage expectations and not lead women on a road to disappointment somewhere down the line. The best way forward is to negotiate the best outcome for the most women that we can possibly achieve. Everyone wants a resolution that would give them the best outcome but it is likely that we have to accept less. If we don't show that we are willing to talk to the Govt.about this and be reasonable via the APPG, MPs will lose interest especially Cons. MPs and we need their support should any debate go to a vote. We lost the chance in Feb. because we couldn't be specific, let's not make the same mistake almost a year down the line, surely we must learn from experience. If any good can come from this page it's for women to take on board the huge costs of some of the proposals and decide whether they believe the Govt. will ever be prepared to pay those amounts out for 1950s women, or do we sit at the negotiating table and get our lives back. Lin

Silvertabby

Re-instating age 60 as the State pension age for all women was never going to happen, although I fully sympathise with women affected by the 2011 acceleration. Just a thought, but bearing in mind that Pension Credit age for men is the age they would be if they were a woman (currently 63+) I wonder if it would be feasible to make Pension Credit age the date a woman would have received their State pension under the 1995 changes? Yes, pension credit is means tested, but the women who have been badly affected are those with no other pension provision other than the State pension, and who would struggle to carry on working until 66 for any reason.

OldBeanz

Isn't this the problem that WASPI gains support from far more women if it goes for the big ask of repealing both acts. By amending only the 2010 act then support would be diminished to those born circa 53-54, say 20% . To make the case for means tested on 2010 amendments would presumably drop support to 5%. It has never been a case of inequality but greed.

Silvertabby

Isn't this the problem that WASPI gains support from far more women if it goes for the big ask of repealing both acts. By amending only the 2010 act then support would be diminished to those born circa 53-54, say 20% . To make the case for means tested on 2010 amendments would presumably drop support to 5%. It has never been a case of inequality but greed.

Oldbeanz - I agree. I would support a case for paying pension credit from the 1995 State pension age, even though I wouldn't qualify. I suspect that in a lot of cases pension credit would replace working age State unemployment benefits, thereby relieving the claimants of the stress of signing on and all that entails. Unless anyone knows different, I believe this would be a financially viable compromise.

Anyone who thinks that both acts could be repealed in full by the WASPI campaign is living in cloud cuckoo land.

gadgetmind

Silvertabby wrote: »

I suspect that in a lot of cases pension credit would replace working age State unemployment benefits, thereby relieving the claimants of the stress of signing on and all that entails.

Ah, the good old magic money tree, alive and well.

People could actually work for a living, and save for their own old age, but I guess that's never going to be popular.

Silvertabby

Ah, the good old magic money tree, alive and well.

People could actually work for a living, and save for their own old age, but I guess that's never going to be popular.

gadgetmind - absolutely, but I'm taking about a compromise in respect of 60+ year old women affected by the 2011 pension age changes only. Although I am in that age group, and have recently retired (at 60) due to my hard-earned occupational pensions, I am aware that there are many ladies who have not been been dealt such a good hand. Fast forward a decade or so, and there's no reason why women shouldn't get the full £155 per week State pension in addition to their own savings.

I have no gripe about the 1995 changes - they were well overdue.

Out of curiosity, I have just had a look at the waspi facebook page, in which they say that they are NOT asking for State pension age to be reverted to 60, but that they ARE demanding a 'non-means tested bridging pension to be paid from 60 until new State pension age'.
Words fail me!!

Mortgagefreeman

I see WASPI are having 'a day of action' tomorrow.

jamesd

Which WASPI?