WASPI Campaign .... State Pensions

Pollycat

Link:
http://www.waspi.co.uk/action

Apparently, according to the Derby Telegraph, they have Jeremy Corbyn's backing.

Malthusian

WASPI2 then, for those who aren't following. Or maybe we should distinguish them by their asks and call them "WASPI60" and "WASPI??". Or go a la Coke with "New WASPI" and "WASPI Classic".

Pollycat

The group in the link above want this:

THE AIM OF THE CAMPAIGN IS: TO ACHIEVE FAIR TRANSITIONAL STATE PENSION ARRANGEMENTS FOR WOMEN BORN IN THE 1950S (BORN ON OR AFTER 6TH APRIL 1951)



This translates into a 'bridging' pension to cover the gap from age 60 until State Pension Age - not means-tested and with compensation for losses for those women who have already reached their SPA. There are no specific age groups within the period mentioned above that are favoured above others.

We do not ask for the pension age to revert back to age 60

But they do say this

WASPI agrees with equalisation

:huh:

jamesd

There are already fair transitional state pension arrangements. Well, close, they are unfair to men. You know, that other half of the population that also deserves fairness, like not having pension paid to women five years earlier just because they are a woman.

The WASPI2 should also be honest and admit that they are asking for something over 100 billion Pounds to be spent on them and comparable measures that would be needed for men to avoid breaching gender discrimination laws.

jamesd

ROFL: "We do not ask for the pension age to revert back to age 60" when they area asking for the same pension to be paid from age 60: "pension to cover the gap from age 60 until State Pension Age".

Who do they think they are going to be able to con just by calling it something else?

Pollycat

jamesd wrote: »

ROFL: "We do not ask for the pension age to revert back to age 60" when they area asking for the same pension to be paid from age 60: "pension to cover the gap from age 60 until State Pension Age".

Who do they think they are going to be able to con just by calling it something else?

Maybe all those MPs who listened to their constituents (some of whom were less than honest about their situation) and then recounted their cases in various debates?

colsten

This morning, WASPI committed professional suicide by tweeting that the fall in John Lewis's profits might be partly due to "impoverishment of your core demographic 1950s women".

Seriously. They did. And they consider themselves as the John Lewis core demographic. https://twitter.com/WASPI_Campaign/status/776319186268282880

This is clarification for anyone who might still have thought WASPI are about women who are in serious financial difficulties.

Sambella

jamesd wrote: »

There are already fair transitional state pension arrangements. Well, close, they are unfair to men. You know, that other half of the population that also deserves fairness, like not having pension paid to women five years earlier just because they are a woman.

The WASPI2 should also be honest and admit that they are asking for something over 100 billion Pounds to be spent on them and comparable measures that would be needed for men to avoid breaching gender discrimination laws.

Maybe you don't know this but the SP ages of 65 for men and 60 for women was originally set so that a couple could retire together. Men were on average 5 years older than their wives. To large extent this is still true.

Pollycat

Sambella wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this but the SP ages of 65 for men and 60 for women was originally set so that a couple could retire together. Men were on average 5 years older than their wives. To large extent this is still true.

Oh, I'm sure that Jamesd knows the history of the state pension age.

In the half-generation before me (I'm a 1953 woman), it was the norm round where I lived for women to get married and leave work to become a housewife.
My aunt who is 10 years older than me did that, and never worked again.

So I think your statement about a couple retiring together wasn't really behind the reason for reducing the woman's state pension age to 60 back in 1940 when that change was introduced.

Daniel54

Sambella wrote: »

Maybe you don't know this but the SP ages of 65 for men and 60 for women was originally set so that a couple could retire together. Men were on average 5 years older than their wives. To large extent this is still true.

There is some pretty detailed information on this in posts 690 and 691 on this thread