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  • missbiggles1
    missbiggles1 Posts: 17,481 Forumite
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    uk1 wrote: »
    You may find this difficult to believe but I genuinely do not understand what your objection was. Because I "didn't get it" but could see people seemed to agree with you, and I genuinely wished to see what I was "missing" - so I have asked you to explain.

    You have said that you have explained, but you haven't. You have simply said the OP behaved inappropriately. You have not said specifically what you object to. There has been emotion and vagueness avoidance and a bit of attacking, but you haven't stated what she has done wrong.

    Either it is simple to explain or it cannot be explained.

    Thanks.

    Jeff



    How about a third option - it's difficult to explain (particularly to someone who doesn't want to understand).
  • uk1
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    edited 19 June 2016 at 12:51PM
    jem16 wrote: »
    So accusing someone of bullying for holding a different opinion is not abusive in your view?

    If you had an ounce of decency you would be apologising for calling me a bully but you seem determined to play the victim here.

    The official WASPI Campaign did pay a tribute to Jo Cox 2 days ago and haven't posted since on Twitter. For all I disagree with their campaign, they handled that tribute well - a simple tribute with no reference to their campaign.

    https://twitter.com/waspi_campaign/status/743465833406562306

    No apology then. Shame on you.

    You do not consider calling me a liar is abusive and against the TOS and therefore breaking the rules? You do not see why on balance it is best not to call someone a liar?

    The problem with bullying is that I have yet to hear of a bully who admits to it or can see it.

    The way you decide whether bullying has taken place or not, is not to ask the bullies to decide but to ask the victim. If they feel they are being bullied, then the chances are that they are being bullied. What do you believe the OP feels?

    Jeff
  • missbiggles1
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    uk1 wrote: »
    No apology then. Shame on you.

    You do not consider calling me a liar is abusive and against the TOS and therefore breaking the rules? You do not see why on balance it is best not to call someone a liar?

    The problem with bullying is that I have yet to hear of a bully who admits to it or can see it.

    The way you decide whether bullying has taken place or not, is not to ask the bullies to decide but to ask the victim. If they feel they are being bullied, then the chances are that they are being bullied. What do you believe the OP feels?

    Jeff

    Wow - you're on very dangerous ground there!
  • uk1
    uk1 Posts: 1,862 Forumite
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    Wow - you're on very dangerous ground there!

    Why?

    Jeff
  • missbiggles1
    missbiggles1 Posts: 17,481 Forumite
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    uk1 wrote: »
    Why?

    Jeff

    You surely don't mean to rewrite Descartes to "I think I'm bullied therefore I am"?:rotfl:
  • jem16
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    edited 19 June 2016 at 1:17PM
    uk1 wrote: »
    No apology then. Shame on you.

    So no apology from you? Shame on you.
    You do not consider calling me a liar is abusive and against the TOS and therefore breaking the rules? You do not see why on balance it is best not to call someone a liar?

    You do not consider calling someone a bully for having a different opinion is abusive?
    The problem with bullying is that I have yet to hear of a bully who admits to it or can see it.

    Unfortunately there are also too many people who cry bully when no such thing has taken place then when bullying really does happen it's not taken seriously.
    The way you decide whether bullying has taken place or not, is not to ask the bullies to decide but to ask the victim. If they feel they are being bullied, then the chances are that they are being bullied. What do you believe the OP feels?

    Jeff

    Pennylane answered my initial post and whilst she disagreed with my opinion, she didn't mention any feeling that I was bullying her. You are the one that has come up with the bullying accusations.
  • uk1
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    jem16 wrote: »
    So no apology from you? Shame on you.

    You do not consider calling someone a bully for having a different opinion is abusive?

    Unfortunately there are also too many people who cry bully when no such thing has taken place then when bullying really does happen it's not taken seriously.

    Pennylane answered my initial post and whilst she disagreed with my opinion, she didn't mention any feeling that I was bullying her. You are the one that has come up with the bullying accusations.

    Let's see if you can tell the difference.

    Do you consider post #55 abusive and bullying and against the TOS?

    Jeff
  • Pollycat
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    mgdavid wrote: »
    You playing dumb is as bad as Pennylane playing innocent. Neither wash.
    If you hadn't heard of WASPI you really were commenting from a position of ignorance. Often that's thought to be the best time to keep schtum.
    This ^^^^ is post #55
    uk1 wrote: »
    Let's see if you can tell the difference.

    Do you consider post #55 abusive and bullying and against the TOS?

    Jeff
    I really, really do not consider mgdavid's post abusive and/or bullying.

    uk1
    Why do you feel it is abusive and/or bullying?
  • bigadaj
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    uk1 wrote: »
    Let's see if you can tell the difference.

    Do you consider post #55 abusive and bullying and against the TOS?

    Jeff

    You certainly have a very low threshold for bullying based on that post.

    My interpretation is that that poster thought you were being deliberately naive or disingenuous, which may or may not have been the case.

    It's a harsh post in some ways but nowhere near what I would term bullying.
  • uk1
    uk1 Posts: 1,862 Forumite
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    Thanks,

    out of interest ... you haven't said the "last bit" ... do you consider it breaches the TOS?

    Jeff
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