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Pay & Display machine not working

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I am sorry about posting a new thread but I have received a County Court Claim form to which I have acknowledged & stated I intend to defend. After spending a couple of hours searching posts I can't find anything relating to Out of order pay & display machines so am not sure if this would be an allowable defence. There was only one machine (there are now two) in the car park and I left a note in my windscreen to say machine not working.
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  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,469 Forumite
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    Who issued the ticket in the first place?
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  • Mellorgolf
    Mellorgolf Posts: 14 Forumite
    It was issued by excel on 16/07/2015, the claim is from VCS / BW Legal.
  • ticket issued by Excel. claim by VCS? Even though they're sister companies only excel can make a claim against you. Any mention of VCS on the signage or ticket? If not it's popcorn time if what you're saying is correct.
  • Mellorgolf
    Mellorgolf Posts: 14 Forumite
    I don't have the original ticket however the pay machine does refer to Vehicle Control Services.
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    I think a request to see the logs of the ticket machine , in a period of say 1/2hr before and say 1hr after you arrived would prove if that machine had taken any money , you will of corse require a printout from the ANPR cameras , that shows other people arriving and leaving and should match up with any payments taken
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  • Mellorgolf
    Mellorgolf Posts: 14 Forumite
    There were / are no cameras in this car park, very little signage, basically just a payment machine.
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    so was there a ticket left on the car ?


    log of machine needed then
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,354 Forumite
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    Mellorgolf wrote: »
    It was issued by excel on 16/07/2015, the claim is from VCS / BW Legal.

    Are you SURE the PCN was issued by Excel? Notice to Keeper from Excel not VCS?

    Search the forum for 'BW Legal' and read all the other recent claim threads first. That will save us time and you will learn a lot.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Mellorgolf
    Mellorgolf Posts: 14 Forumite
    As I say I have searched through other threads but can't find anything regarding pay machine not working, I don't have the PCN so can't be sure if it was issued by excel or VCS. I am trying to establish if the fact that there was only one machine and it wasn't working would be considered as an allowable defence?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,354 Forumite
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    That would be ONE point of defence among several, yes. Certainly not on its own. Reading other defence threads will help you.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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