Windows 7 updates and Microsoft cyberbullying

esuhl

Robisere wrote: »

This might help:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3102810

Thanks, but I already have that installed. :-/

[STRIKE]Out of interest, does anyone know a way to search for which updates are installed other than visually scanning the unsorted list in the Control Panel?[/STRIKE]

EDIT: Just found out you can run a command like this in Powershell to see if a KB update is installed:

get-hotfix -id KB3102810

Robisere wrote: »

Hiding KB3035583 does no good, it just comes back again, keep an eye out for it and just keep hiding it before you click out of WU. Microshaft are determined to get us all on 10.

So it seems. Grrr! :mad:

Robisere wrote: »

Download GWX Control Panel and block it: http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

Others have had success with never10:
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

I use GWX Control Panel, but have not used never10, so cannot recommend ot.

esuhl wrote: »

(Yes, I know I could install third-party software to block KB3035583 et al, if I wanted.)

I dunno... maybe I just have a perverse fascination in seeing how Microsoft are playing out this game. I always check Windows Updates before installing them anyway, so maybe I shouldn't grumble so much.

But it is unnecessarily tedious. Computers were designed for the very purpose of automating tedious processes. It's insane that Microsoft have introduced these bugs and seem to have little interest in fixing them. But I guess that's the nature of the beast with closed-source software... grumble, grumble, mutter, mutter...

VoucherMan

I considered myself another long term 'anti Windows 10' person, but had recently been having more problems with W7 updates. Windows has 150 updates, but they wouldn't download. I managed to fix that one again, but this time was left endlessly searching for updates.:mad:
I did manage to overcome that, no thanks to Microsoft (downloaded some 3rd party software to download & install the updates). After this the updates started working correctly again, but W10 nag had returned.

I decided to do as some others had suggested and install W10, then revert to W7 so there would, in theory, be a free upgrade available to me if and when I wanted it.

So far though I've not found a good enough reason to roll back. Sure there are plenty of bits I'm not keen on, but most of these I've found fixes for thanks to Google. It does puzzle me why some of the issues have not been addressed by MS though. Desktop icons moved every time I log in is the latest. Many people having the same issue, but nothing from MS:mad:. Hopefully I've found a fix for this with another registry tweak, but to early to be sure. As for having to manually check & update many of the drivers.:mad:

Only installed on Friday, so plenty of time to get rid of it if I get too peed off with it.

Swipe

I had been struggling with win7 updates on my only windows laptop since April. In the end, I downloaded and ran the wsusoffline program which downloaded all the updates and the ran their update installer program which installed them (up to last month's patch level) offline. After this, my windows updates started working again and I was able to download this month's via windows update. So definitely something to check out if all else fails: http://download.wsusoffline.net/

spannerzone

A helpful fellow on Digital Spy forums, post #11 wrote this and it seems to work for most people:

Isn't it strange then that on a clean install of Windows 7 SP1, Windows Update will now take hours or even days...

...until you install two 3MB hotfixes in sequence, KB3102810 and KB3135445, after which Windows Update only takes a few minutes.

They did the exact same thing with XP in its final days as well.

Never take things at face value with MS.


I found this worked for a couple of my PC's but one PC still didn't find any updates unless I left it running overnight and in the morning it had found a load of updates.

spud17

spannerzone wrote: »

A helpful fellow on Digital Spy forums, post #11 wrote this and it seems to work for some people:

Altered your quote.
We went through that link on my thread back in March, there are many claims to have solved the problem, but there does not seem to be a definitive solution.
Time, in my case, nearly 24 hrs seemed to solve it.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5437339

spannerzone

Some/most ...... whatever

It's a real pain though - now have MS have accidentally on purpose made this happen to make people ditch W7 out of frustration and go to W10? - might be tricky if their PC can't do the update to get the Win10 update offer


and I thought I had a recollection of this being discussed here a while back....my memory needs an upgrade!

marleyboy

I turned off my W7 updates completely as soon as they started introducing 10. I have opted to leave it that way up until this laptop becomes redundant, so far so good.

I still have my Chromebook and Android devices to fall back on, as well as going out of the way to buy a Mac in preparation of saying bye to MS, if and when my Win7 becomes unusable.

Johnmcl7

Turning off Windows updates entirely is a really bad idea, anti-virus products can only catch malware once it's out in the wild whereas windows patches can close vulnerabilites before the malware has even been written to take advantage of it. Furthermore cryptographic malware can make clearing malware much more difficult than simply running MBAM.

Using Never10 or GWX Control panel allows you to keep the protection of the updates without having to worry about Windows 10 getting onto your machine.

John

bod1467

VoucherMan wrote: »

Desktop icons moved every time I log in is the latest.

I get this problem on W10 ... but only if the Switch User mechanism is used. If you use the Logout/Login mechanism then desktop items remain as they are.

(I've disabled the Switch User mechanism to stop SWMBO doing this, as this was what she's always done. Now she has no choice).

VoucherMan

bod1467 wrote: »

I get this problem on W10 ... but only if the Switch User mechanism is used. If you use the Logout/Login mechanism then desktop items remain as they are.

(I've disabled the Switch User mechanism to stop SWMBO doing this, as this was what she's always done. Now she has no choice).

No user switching here, only a single user account.
I've had W10 running since Friday, tried to start it this morning and Windows would not resume from sleep yet again. Another restart, lost whatever I was working on (nothing important or I would have backed it up) before pressing the sleep button, and as a bonus all my icons have moved again.
The only suggestion I've seen with this widely reported issue is to update drivers. I let MS do it, I've been to the Intel site to try, but nothing helps.

Goodbye Windows 10:mad:, Hello Windows 7.