PCS car parking charge - company car

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catfunt wrote: »

openthepoppy,

One of your main complaints at work should be that by just paying it on your behalf, you have been denied your lawful right to appeal/challenge the invoice (because that is what it is, not a fine/penalty, as others have said.)

Have a search on this forum for "hire company paid parking charge" - this will point you to what hire companies should be doing in the event of a parking charge, this should be further ammunition at work.

All the best with this - it stinks to high heaven.

As above.

When I was a union rep I won a case where the company's dedicated car rental company had paid a private PCN and charged it to our employer's corporate credit card. I argued that the charge was neither a fine or a penalty and the rental company had denied my colleague the right to appeal. They agreed and returned the money to my colleagues' corporate card.

OP, if you have a union rep, get them involved. Unfortunately you may have to educate them and point them to this site first.
You really should take the Parking-Prankster up on his kind offer to help as well.

Gadfium

I had a similar situation twice with my employer. The first case was where they paid the PPC and wanted to deduct from my wages. I informed them, in no uncertain terms, that any such deduction was an unlawful deduction and if it was carried out then they would have a grievance on their hands.
The second instance was where they wanted to again pay the PPC (to prevent the company name being tarnished). They had to be beaten into a corner to get them to discharge their PoFA liability by naming me as keeper, which then allowed me to challenge via POPLA.
In both cases the Fleet numpty esteemed colleague insisted on referring to the clause in the Drivers Handbook about the driver being liable for fines. He didn't seem willing to understand that these are speculative invoices.
Speak to your union representative if you have one. I bet that there have been thousands of these invoices paid all over the country and worker's wages deducted.

opethpoppy

Hello again, parking prankster I may need to take you up on your kind offer of assistance!

My work have replied saying I need to contact the PPC and advise them that it is a lease/company car and by law they must let me appeal. Hmmm, even if they let me appeal I can't see them refunding me!
I think I need to push this with work, does everyone agree?

bod1467

Yes .

opethpoppy

Thanks Bod.
I have only ever read/been told that once you pay you cannot appeal. Maybe they are thinking of the local authority parking fines (not speculative invoices).

pappa_golf

ok I refer you back to http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=70737382&postcount=16


also CMs comments http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=70742602&postcount=40


PCS are no longer able to provide back office duty to scum and Co , perhaps they tried the £120 trick once to often
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5475918




please would you tell us the name of the parking Co ? ,

Coupon-mad

pappa_golf wrote: »

PCS are no longer able to provide back office duty to scum and Co , perhaps they tried the £120 trick once to often
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5475918,

How do you make that leap? The columns on the right in the BPA CoP have never meant anything and are not a summary of what a PPC 'can' or cannot' do or anything useful. I've never given them a second glance and just because there are more columns now doesn't mean any more than it ever did, AFAIK.

Hello again, parking prankster I may need to take you up on your kind offer of assistance!

So you've obviously emailed him on his website Blog page, we hope, not just called out here in the hope of being seen?

pappa_golf

ok , lets see if the "inflated" NTK now arrive from ZZPS instead of PCS




PS: who was the PARKING company in this fiasco ?

opethpoppy

Edna - I am pretty sure the lease company know who the driver is. They seem to know who I am when I call for service, maintenance issues. However I can see why it's easier for them to pay and charge a fee, bill the company who automatically deduct from my wages!

Yes I have Coupon.

pappa_golf

who was the parking co that originally issued you with a ticket?