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The EU: IN or OUT?
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He epitomises the conundrum and confusion that plagues the leave campaign.As for immigration (presumably an increase in Indian?) you're going to have to enlighten us.
Dyson is a leave camp poster boy.
He decided to vote leave because he was having difficulty recruiting non-EU engineers. Problem is it wasn't the EU rules making it difficult, it was our own.
Him campaigning for more immigration doesn't exactly sit comfortably with the 'man the barricades' and 'go home foreigners' campaigning the leave vote depended so heavily on does it?'We don't need to be smarter than the rest; we need to be more disciplined than the rest.' - WB0 -
Him campaigning for more immigration doesn't exactly sit comfortably with the 'man the barricades' and 'go home foreigners' campaigning the leave vote depended so heavily on does it?
That's funny most of the Brexiteers I conversed with were a little more balanced and less 'Daily Mail' and very comfortable with controlled and targeted immigration. Certainly until/if the UKs own population were ever 'skilled up'.
Maybe we mix and read in different circles.0 -
bowlhead99 wrote: »Proprietor of my local curry house voted leave because he finds it difficult to recruit good chefs and other staff (at a price he can afford) with the cookery and the dialect skills to easily fit into his kitchen.
He figured if there were curbs on letting every European economic migrant into the UK regardless of skills, the country would have a bit more space and there might be more relaxation on letting people come over from the Indian subcontinent to work his kitchen. Reckons costs and hassle involved in cross training a Romanian in Indian culture and kitchen lingo when you're only just breaking even as it is, is just not worth it. Not sure May's trip was designed to unlock that sort of talent.
I pointed out that if we don't get a good deal for financial services post brexit, I wouldn't have as much income to spend on his food and drink and might have left town altogether, which would put a fair dent in his revenues. He hadn't thought of it that way. But his household was split down the middle on how it voted, so they all cancelled each other out, as I did with my Dad.
:beer:
I hate to think what 'Chefs special sauce' you got after that dressing down!
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veryintrigued wrote: »That's funny most of the Brexiteers I conversed with were a little more balanced and less 'Daily Mail' and very comfortable with controlled and targeted immigration. Certainly until/if the UKs own population were ever 'skilled up'.
Maybe we mix and read in different circles.
You're fooling no one but yourself then.
UKIP got four million votes in 2015 and it's quite clear what their voters want, the manifesto is window dressing. At least four and a half million consume the jingoistic bile and bilge of the daily hate and the stun.'We don't need to be smarter than the rest; we need to be more disciplined than the rest.' - WB0 -
You're fooling no one but yourself then.
UKIP got four million votes in 2015 and it's quite clear what their voters want, the manifesto is window dressing. At least four and a half million consume the jingoistic bile and bilge of the daily hate and the stun.
Excellent - tis good to see we're back to generalisations.
Ironically isnt that just what you loathe about the 'other camp'?
I think I'll leave this thread for those of you who are 'far Brexit' and 'far Remain' - you're welcome to each other.0 -
How can you do anything other than generalise when you're talking about millions...
"I'm not racist, but..."'We don't need to be smarter than the rest; we need to be more disciplined than the rest.' - WB0 -
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veryintrigued wrote: »And they we have it folks...
The elephant in the room.'We don't need to be smarter than the rest; we need to be more disciplined than the rest.' - WB0 -
The elephant in the room.
A calorie controlled diet and some exercise will sort that out for you.
Other breaking news:
Not all Brexiteers were / are racist. Its lazy to believe that.
Not all Remainers were / are self centred egoists with no sense of patriotic fervour. Again its lazy to believe that.
Anyway I'll leave to it - with those 'racist' 4.5 million dolls and pins you appear to have.0 -
It always intrigues me why a little uncomfortable truth invokes such hysterics.
The brexit vote was delivered by pandering to and energising the fears and prejudices of a certain demographic. There was and is no plan, clear or otherwise, that explains what such a decision will aim to deliver beyond the NHS lies. It was all about invoking the power of nightmares and rabble rousing and it worked a treat.'We don't need to be smarter than the rest; we need to be more disciplined than the rest.' - WB0
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