Referendum: which way are you voting?

qwert_yuiop

jenheiffer wrote: »

This isn't the case in N.Ireland The Republican/Irish Nationalist parties are all campaigning to remain in the EU but the largest Unionist party (DUP) want to come out.

Vive la dissidence

chunter

Remain

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

Good luck to the Scottish nationalists with oil at a lower price than extraction cost, and Aberdeen in a state of collapse.

Ireland doesn't have any oil. It seems to survive quite well.

montyrebel

Leave

chunter wrote: »

Ireland doesn't have any oil. It seems to survive quite well.

It doesn't need any oil, for its wee granny said a prayer and lit a candle in church for it

qwert_yuiop

chunter wrote: »

Ireland doesn't have any oil. It seems to survive quite well.

Didn't need that bailout?

The scots nats' arithmetic was all based on oil remaining at or exceeding $110 a barrel. Scotland provides free health care for all right down to prescriptions. University education is free. Fire brigade, schooling, water, all free. Not in the Irish republic. Of course the scots could have their own state. They'd just be poorer, and probably without the above.

Risteard

Leave

jenheiffer wrote: »

The Republican/Irish Nationalist parties are all campaigning to remain in the EU

LOL. The Provos are certainly not a Republican party though - in fact they are not even Nationalist as they support the continuance of English rule in Ireland and help to administer it.

qwert_yuiop

Risteard wrote: »

LOL. The Provos are certainly not a Republican party though - in fact they are not even Nationalist as they support the continuance of English rule in Ireland and help to administer it.

Well, that's what the GFA was all about , the point being if you want any change, you'd better persuade people to think a United ireland is in their best interests. After all, northern Ireland is perfectly at liberty to secede from the uk, with a 50 % plus one vote , just like Britain and the eu.

Do you not think , though, that the big change has been the massive levels of immigration down south, where the latest census is about to show that the foreign born and foreign parented numbers have reached a point where the ethnically Irish are in danger of losing majority status. It's a new world.

saverbuyer

Leave

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

Well, that's what the GFA was all about , the point being if you want any change, you'd better persuade people to think a United ireland is in their best interests. After all, northern Ireland is perfectly at liberty to secede from the uk, with a 50 % plus one vote , just like Britain and the eu.

Subject to the Secretary of State for NI thinking people want to secede. She/he needs to call a border poll.

qwert_yuiop

saverbuyer wrote: »

Subject to the Secretary of State for NI thinking people want to secede. She/he needs to call a border poll.

This Secretary of State thinks we should secede from the eu, and also thinks we won't get a "hard" border. Of course we'd get a hard border (unless the 26 counties follow us out), as we'd have to establish new trade agreements. Hello customs posts at meigh, and queues all the way back to newry.

joefizz

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

Do you not think , though, that the big change has been the massive levels of immigration down south, where the latest census is about to show that the foreign born and foreign parented numbers have reached a point where the ethnically Irish are in danger of losing majority status. It's a new world.

Really? I thought the last census showed around 86% 'white irish'. They would probably need another 3 million people to come in to lose any majority status.
Where did you get your figures from? Perhaps its true in one or two dublin school districts but not remotely accurate for the country.

RikM

Remain

Interesting analysis on the Beeb

People aged 65 and over are 23% more likely to vote Leave than the average voter. Voters aged 18-24 are 37% more likely to back Remain. Those aged 25-34 are 19% more likely to back Remain than the average voter, the poll suggests
Students are 54% more likely to back Remain than the average punter. Graduates are 21% more likely. Meanwhile, people with no formal qualifications are 48% more likely to back Leave
People in higher status occupations, on the scales used by sociologists, are also more likely to vote Remain. People in lower status jobs tilt towards Leave
Living in eastern England is associated with being 15% more likely to vote for Leave, while living in London makes you 15% more likely to vote for Remain

So, all down to demographics? Higher the proportion of young, educated, people in the area, the more chance of a "Remain" vote...?