Psychic readings

cyantist

Person_one wrote: »

I would suggest not having any affairs I suppose. People are often able to guess what others are up to because none of us are as good at keeping secrets as we might like to think!

I'd also encourage your sister not to spend any more time with an oddball who apparently takes pleasure in manipulating her.

I agree with the affairs thing! Though still for this lady to know she'd have had to seen this person with their bit on the side (not impossible granted), yet not be seen, then taken a lucky guess as to the bit on the sides name (which isn't a particularly common name).

I don't see how this person is manipulative and attention seeking.

NewShadow: She doesn't word things in that sort of telling tales way, doesn't talk about dreams or having visions and it's much more a case of "how is your sister after X?" When no one knew about X in the first place.

ViolaLass

NewShadow wrote: »

I've highlighted physics, because I might suggest you look up Fermi's paradox... It's never as simple as yes or no.

I wrote psychics, not physics.

I see no paradox. I'm always open to changing my mind, subject to new evidence. Like I said, it's not about choice, it's about what the evidence says. I suppose I am choosing not to care whether God or the Spaghetti Monster exist (in light of no evidence that they do).

NewShadow

ViolaLass wrote: »

I wrote psychics, not physics.

I see no paradox. I'm always open to changing my mind, subject to new evidence. Like I said, it's not about choice, it's about what the evidence says. I suppose I am choosing not to care whether God or the Spaghetti Monster exist (in light of no evidence that they do).

Sorry - Now I'm on leave for a few days (:j) I'll read posts more carefully.

Not believing in something because there's no evidence is a rational choice, actively believing something doesn't exist is where it gets a bit logically dicy.

Jagraf

lovinituk wrote: »

What I find difficult to understand is why otherwise seemingly intelligent people believe in psychics and similar mumbo jumbo, even when presented with evidence that it's all make believe / a trick / not widely proven / etc. There is plenty of evidence in this thread alone.

You could say that with anything though. Why do seemingly intelligent people buy expensive cars, over priced clothing, believe anything anyone says sbout anything? People have their own mix of what they want to believe for their own purposes. I believe much more in psychic ability that any reason anyone would believe in a £2000 suit.

ViolaLass

Jagraf wrote: »

You could say that with anything though. Why do seemingly intelligent people buy expensive cars, over priced clothing, believe anything anyone says sbout anything? People have their own mix of what they want to believe for their own purposes. I believe much more in psychic ability that any reason anyone would believe in a £2000 suit.

I don't quite understand the comparison.

A £2k suit manifestly exists. Depending on where you get it from, it may be of better quality than a cheaper one. It may be made to measure. It might simply make you feel better.

That's different to claiming someone brought you messages from a dead relative.

Jagraf

ViolaLass wrote: »

Science isn't about opinions, it's about verifiable facts.

I don't believe that there isn't a monster under my bed: I can provide proof that there isn't and I have no proof that there is. The same works for God and psychics.

If there is a life after death, where is the proof? If no proof is needed because we can believe in whatever makes us feel better then I vote for the afterlife being very like the Appenines with pizza and ice cream available at all times.

You can't prove it isn't.

Do you only believe in everything you know as a fact? Do you have to see everything to believe it? Do you not think there may be more than what we know? This fact has been proven time and time again, as we get to know things. I think an open mind is a good thing.

Jagraf

ViolaLass wrote: »

I don't quite understand the comparison.

A £2k suit manifestly exists. Depending on where you get it from, it may be of better quality than a cheaper one. It may be made to measure. It might simply make you feel better.

That's different to claiming someone brought you messages from a dead relative.

But if it simply makes you feel better and you genuinely believe it, isn't that a good thing? You don't have to prove why you believe in your expensive suit, and I don't need to feel the same about your suit. It doesn't make you wrong though. Whether you see something or not is only one sense.

ViolaLass

Jagraf wrote: »

Do you only believe in everything you know as a fact? I don't have to know it personally but roughly speaking, yes. Do you have to see everything to believe it? No. Do you not think there may be more than what we know? Oh course there is, science works out new things every day This fact has been proven time and time again, as we get to know things. I think an open mind is a good thing.

I stated in a later post that I am always open to changing my mind on things if new evidence is presented.

I don't, as a matter of course, go around believing in things for which there is no proof and insisting that they exist. Why would I?

ViolaLass

Jagraf wrote: »

But if it simply makes you feel better and you genuinely believe it, isn't that a good thing? You don't have to prove why you believe in your expensive suit, and I don't need to feel the same about your suit. It doesn't make you wrong though. Whether you see something or not is only one sense.

I'm not saying that belief in a god, heaven or good suits is bad. I don't blame people for wanting believe in a god, I imagine it can be comforting. I just think they're wrong and 'psychics' making money from it and manipulating others is definitely not OK.

BarryBlue

Jagraf wrote: »

Do you only believe in everything you know as a fact? Do you have to see everything to believe it? Do you not think there may be more than what we know? This fact has been proven time and time again, as we get to know things. I think an open mind is a good thing.

It is sensible to consider evidence. That way we can ascertain facts. The one certain fact we have is that these so-called psychics are tricksters. They have set techniques that they use, just as a magician does. The evidence for that is overwhelming enough to make it a fact.