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  • Joe_Horner
    Joe_Horner Posts: 4,895 Forumite
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    davemorton wrote: »
    Can you not drive it back from an MOT?

    Yes you can and, even if the DVSA guy says that it shouldn't have passed the test in March, the pass is still valid so it will have an MOT. Nuts, I know, but that's how the system's set up.

    The test will also be at a normal MOT station, not a specific "VOSA / DVSA" facility so "they don't have storage" isn't an automatic issue. In fact, they're usually done at the same station that issued the pass so that the same equipment's used but afaik that can be varied if the distance involved is unreasonable.

    If the OP's normal garage (who pointed out the problems) is an MOT centre then she can always ask if they'll do it there (would need the garage to agree as well). That way, if repairs are needed, the box is right where it needs to be anyway.
  • Silver-Surfer_2
    Silver-Surfer_2 Posts: 1,850 Forumite
    How you getting it back from the MOT appeal station ?
    They don't do storage and it wont have an MOT.
    As usual glass half empty.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    davemorton wrote: »
    Can you not drive it back from an MOT?
    If it's unroadworthy, you shouldn't have driven it THERE, let alone back.

    Driving to and from an MOT is an exemption from needing an MOT.
    There is NEVER any exemption from driving an unroadworthy vehicle, no matter what the MOT status.

    By driving it to the MOT appeal, you're accepting that you think it's roadworthy - else you'd be knowingly committing an offence yourself. Think it's unroadworthy? Get it trailered to the appeal and back.
  • ester83
    ester83 Posts: 15 Forumite
    bigjl wrote: »
    Getting VOSA involved will only end in tears.

    If it has been inspected and the person said it wasn't too bad but has some wear and tear then why worry about what a Garage said when trying to fish for work.

    You don't get much Horsebox for £3k.

    It is old and will never be perfect.

    Well yes I know that, I never expected it to be perfect hence the budget to put things right. I also only need it to go 20 mins down the road.

    Who inspected it and said that it had wear and tear? The person that inspected it for another potential purchaser has said that the rear springs were in a dangerous condition and liable to cause an accident.

    I don't think my garage is trying to fish for work, they never have in the past and if they wanted to they could have started the work and just given me the bill. As it is they were worried I had been a bit screwed over and just wanted me to know and were unconvinced the MOTing garage had done a good, fair and safe job.

    Why wouldn't I get vosa involved? It is free for me an independent so we get away from well my garage says it isn't roadworthy, mine says it is situation.
  • ester83
    ester83 Posts: 15 Forumite
    Once I know when and where it has to go I will discuss getting it there with my garage and whether to trailer it or not (they don't MOT up to that category) one step at a time here!
  • salubrious
    salubrious Posts: 210 Forumite
    Can you get some pictures up here of the corrosion - I'd like to see it if you could.

    There are a few mot testers that grace this forum. It would be interesting to see just how bad the corrosion is.
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    edited 20 May 2016 at 1:32PM
    ester83 wrote: »
    Well yes I know that, I never expected it to be perfect hence the budget to put things right. I also only need it to go 20 mins down the road.

    Who inspected it and said that it had wear and tear? The person that inspected it for another potential purchaser has said that the rear springs were in a dangerous condition and liable to cause an accident.

    I don't think my garage is trying to fish for work, they never have in the past and if they wanted to they could have started the work and just given me the bill. As it is they were worried I had been a bit screwed over and just wanted me to know and were unconvinced the MOTing garage had done a good, fair and safe job.

    Why wouldn't I get vosa involved? It is free for me an independent so we get away from well my garage says it isn't roadworthy, mine says it is situation.


    If you change your story how can any accurate advice be given?

    This is what you said a few posts ago.


    "Have spoken to a chap who inspects for a living who saw it for a client before me and he said that most of the issues were wear and tear 50:50 fails but also that no advisories when he looked underneath. He advised not to purchase based on the condition rear springs that had already had a less than good repair on them and that the box might be used to carry 2horses (1100kg payload) He did say it isn't without it's good points so has made me feel a bit better and that actually if I got the crucial work done I might not be hugely out of pocket. He did mention a other things and what he says he told the seller does not match up with what I was told he said (although I obviously took it with a pinch of salt). In hindsight should have rung him before purchase but felt wrong asking for the results of someone else's inspection! In hindsight should have thought it odd that such an old vehicle has passed with virtually no advisories for the last 3 years and should have got it MOTd again down there. All good in hindsight"

    Where did you say they were dangerous?

    And if you get VOSA involved your vehicle will have no MOT, so no option of getting the problems fixed and using it, you will likely have to SORN it.

    And unless the VOSA inspection is considered an MOT you won't be able to drive it away of it fails.

    In my experience when you involve bureaucracy things get complicated fast.
  • ester83
    ester83 Posts: 15 Forumite
    Sorry I haven't intentionally changed my story just posted further information as I have received it myself and I think you have just misunderstood what I was getting at (the joy of writing rather than talking!)

    I said he had said most of the issues were wear and tear.
    Not the rear springs which he thought were dangerous in their current state and advised his client not to go ahead with the purchase because of them as he felt they were at risk of going through the chassis, particularly if one were to use it in it's capacity of a 2 horse box (lightweight horses though granted).

    I thought it worth trying to speak to him as I was being fed the line that the only thing he picked up on was the cosmetic rust down the sides and that my mechanic must therefore be bonkers or super fussy when actually it turns out that he has everything down on his notes that my mechanic has spotted but commented that some would, some wouldn't let it pass with a lot of the items as confirmed by someone further up the thread.

    I don't understand why you think I would have no option of getting the problems fixed if VOSA decides it has no MOT? Or why you think I would have no other means of transporting it other than driving it away? Or that it won't be done at a garage that can do the work anyway? I am following the advice of my garage, citizens advice and separate legal advice to best resolve the situation and just arming myself with as much info as possible so I know where I stand and the different possible outcomes.

    Salubrious I'm afraid I only have pictures of the cosmetic sills etc rust not the important bits as I only had a whistle stop tour of the holes while it was over the pit.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    ester83 wrote: »
    I said he had said most of the issues were wear and tear.

    Which the list shows them to be.
    Not the rear springs which he thought were dangerous in their current state

    If it's just the springs that are corroded, rather than the floor of the vehicle, then that's even easier...
  • s_b
    s_b Posts: 4,464 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    why did you not answer my post 16?
    its a good one you know
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