Peugeot 3008

garcon6

Car broke down after having a new fuel filter fitted, took car to the dealer ship where they did a diagnostic check and after they found some fault codes they put a new filter on. They test drove it and they phoned me to say all is good. Later on in the day they couldn't start the car. They did some investigations and they think the root cause of the problem is the fuel injectors. They found them quite hard to get out so they have had to use some releasing agents/heat. There is one more to get out they will give one last go tomorrow, they have had to get a specialist tool for this procedure. If they cannot do this then the other option is to remove the cyclinder head at a last resort. Three injectors were tested and they said that there was 9% fuel found. Though I said that always use dieasel, Warners mention about claiming of the insurance for mis-fuelling.

Its a Peugeot 3008 2010 and i have had the car for nearly two years. I would like to know if on a car of only six years old these injectors should be experiencing these problems. Also they said that the injectors were weak and needed overhauling. I am also wandering want the warranty is on Peugeot.

I need some really good advise.

bigjl

garcon6 wrote: »

Car broke down after having a new fuel filter fitted, took car to the dealer ship where they did a diagnostic check and after they found some fault codes they put a new filter on. They test drove it and they phoned me to say all is good. Later on in the day they couldn't start the car. They did some investigations and they think the root cause of the problem is the fuel injectors. They found them quite hard to get out so they have had to use some releasing agents/heat. There is one more to get out they will give one last go tomorrow, they have had to get a specialist tool for this procedure. If they cannot do this then the other option is to remove the cyclinder head at a last resort. Three injectors were tested and they said that there was 9% fuel found. Though I said that always use dieasel, Warners mention about claiming of the insurance for mis-fuelling.

Its a Peugeot 3008 2010 and i have had the car for nearly two years. I would like to know if on a car of only six years old these injectors should be experiencing these problems. Also they said that the injectors were weak and needed overhauling. I am also wandering want the warranty is on Peugeot.

I need some really good advise.

So did you mis fuel or not?

garcon6

No I have never put the wrong fuel in.

bigjl

garcon6 wrote: »

No I have never put the wrong fuel in.

Sounds more like a fueling issue.

The 2.0 doesn't have a lift pump, not sure about the 1.6.

If the fuel filter was changed they must have suspected low fuel flow caused by a blocked filter.

I think fuel pump problems are more likely than injector problems.

khcomp

I would suggest that, unless there was any problem that prompted the fuel filter change, that some debris has been disturbed in the filter housing allowing crud through to the injectors.
Modern common rail diesel injectors are machined to incredibly fine tolerances, and any blockage or wear can have a massive effect. Injectors lasting six years is deemed acceptable for many manufacturers, and the car is four years out of warranty..
Worst case scenario, and again all too common, is damage to the fuel pump causing debris to be fed to the injectors necessitating replacement of all fuel lines, pump and injectors: Probably a £2,000 job.

bigjl

khcomp wrote: »

I would suggest that, unless there was any problem that prompted the fuel filter change, that some debris has been disturbed in the filter housing allowing crud through to the injectors.
Modern common rail diesel injectors are machined to incredibly fine tolerances, and any blockage or wear can have a massive effect. Injectors lasting six years is deemed acceptable for many manufacturers, and the car is four years out of warranty..
Worst case scenario, and again all too common, is damage to the fuel pump causing debris to be fed to the injectors necessitating replacement of all fuel lines, pump and injectors: Probably a £2,000 job.

How can a six year old car be four years out of warranty?

Have you ever changed a fuel filter on a 3008?

Do you have a link to failures such as you suggest on the 3008?

khcomp

How can a six year old car be four years out of warranty?

Because the 3008 has a 2 year warranty....

Have you ever changed a fuel filter on a 3008?
Yes

Do you have a link to failures such as you suggest on the 3008?

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=peugeot%203008%20injector%20problems
(I didn't use Google to answer the problem, just done it now re your request)
I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! Injector problems aren't specific to the 3008, or Peugeot - you can find the same issues for VAG group, and most other manufacturers..

garcon6

After the fuel filter was fitted the car broke down called recovery they did a diagnostic check and the fuel filter was showing low pressure, which I mentioned to the dealer.

I mentioned this to someone I know is a mechanic and they also mentioned the fuel pump. Anyway I phoned the dealer and asked for the fault codes:

P113, P0087 (repair harness-fuel connector) Does anyone recognise or familiar with these codes.

I did phone another Peugeot dealer asking would a diagnostic check pick up faults with the injectors and they said it should. I mentioned this to the dealer though it's not always possible to pick up these faults. That is why I asked if it was necessary to take all the injectors out. They are struggling to get out the last injector. If it's not possible they will have to remove the cylinder head, last resort.
If they can remove the last injector the overall price will be around £1400.
I am thinking whether they should have removed the injectors as two of them were fine, as that is wasted labour. I wonder if this job should be investigated as I am not sure if they have followed the correct procedure. Also they sent 3 of the injectors for testing and there was a trace of 9% fuel. I also have to pay for the test should they have asked me before.

Anyone got a suggestions what to do next. I did phone Trading Standards.

bigjl

khcomp wrote: »

How can a six year old car be four years out of warranty?

Because the 3008 has a 2 year warranty....

Have you ever changed a fuel filter on a 3008?
Yes

Do you have a link to failures such as you suggest on the 3008?

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=peugeot%203008%20injector%20problems
(I didn't use Google to answer the problem, just done it now re your request)
I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! Injector problems aren't specific to the 3008, or Peugeot - you can find the same issues for VAG group, and most other manufacturers..

So all Peugeots have a three year warranty except the 3008 which has 2 years?

khcomp

The Peugeot 3008 Warranties
New Car Warranty
All vehicles first registered in the UK and purchased from a UK Peugeot Dealer benefit from a Peugeot 2 - Year unlimited mileage manufacturer's warranty and a free optional additional 1 year of warranty provided by the Peugeot Dealer Network in the UK. This additional warranty carries a mileage limit of 60,000 miles from first registration and is dependent upon the manufacturer's recommended servicing being carried out at the specified time or distance intervals. For full terms and conditions, please consult your Peugeot Dealer in the UK

So no, all Peugeots have a 2 year manufacturer warranty - the third year is optional by the supplying dealer, and only applies up to 60,000 miles when applied. Don't suppose the OP is worried about whether they're three or four years out of warranty to be honest.

In response to the OP, P1113 is fault in fuel pressure regulator , P0087 is low fuel pressure in the high pressure 'common' rail. Could be a faulty pressure regulator (not too serious), a damaged fuel pipe somewhere causing air in the system (again, cheap enough if you can find it) or, at worst, a knackered high pressure fuel pump.

garcon6

It seems it could be a possibility, not sure if they should have been taking the injectors out. The problem is I am not a mechanic so I have limited knowledge. Unfortunately they are the ones working on the car.

Do you know when doing a diagnostic check can or should they be able to pick up fault codes for any of the injectors, as two were ok.