Renault Grand Scenic V Vauxhall Zafira

darren_5

Hi all,

Thanks for the help so far.

I hae discounted the Peugeot due to the Turbo problems.

What about these two...

Renault Grand Scenic V Vauxhall Zafira

I currently have a Scenic 54 plate which has had few electrical issues and a new clutch but the one I am looking at is 2011.

Ive heard patchy things about the Zafira as well though.

Any thoughts?

Thanks...

jobdone1

I would personally avoid both.

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jobdone1 wrote: »

I would personally avoid both.

Why? My Zafira has 115k miles is very cheap to run and is still reliable touch wood.

darren_5

Interesting...

Just checked the reliability index and it seems to state 99-05 cars are hugely more reliable then (36 reliable - lower the better) than the 05-onwards which has a score of 164....

The Grand Scenic 09 onwards has a score of 69 and an average repar cost of £555.

motorguy

darren_5 wrote: »

Hi all,

Thanks for the help so far.

I hae discounted the Peugeot due to the Turbo problems.

What about these two...

Renault Grand Scenic V Vauxhall Zafira

I currently have a Scenic 54 plate which has had few electrical issues and a new clutch but the one I am looking at is 2011.

Ive heard patchy things about the Zafira as well though.

Any thoughts?

Thanks...

I'm not a fan of the diesels fitted to either car.

You will buy a younger, lower miles petrol variant for your money.

I'd personally have a 1.8i petrol if i was buying a Zaffy.

With petrol Scenics, watch for dephaser pulley noise and problems. (google it or check it out on youtube).

Windows - makes sure they're all working on the Renault - its a common fault but a cheap fix (£30 for the part new on ebay and £30 to fit)

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darren_5 wrote: »

Interesting...

Just checked the reliability index and it seems to state 99-05 cars are hugely more reliable then (36 reliable - lower the better) than the 05-onwards which has a score of 164....

The Grand Scenic 09 onwards has a score of 69 and an average repar cost of £555.

Probably to do with electrics... The newer Zafira is a much better car on the whole.

darren_5

What about something like this?

http://www.drivevauxhall.co.uk/Used-Car-Details/used-vauxhall-zafira-16i-115-design-nav-5dr-esta-estate-bronze-manual-petrol-ID_1891426744.aspx

Would would petrol engines comfortably go to? I've always had diesels and a Scenic for the last 4-5 years.

motorguy

darren_5 wrote: »

What about something like this?

http://www.drivevauxhall.co.uk/Used-Car-Details/used-vauxhall-zafira-16i-115-design-nav-5dr-esta-estate-bronze-manual-petrol-ID_1891426744.aspx

Would would petrol engines comfortably go to? I've always had diesels and a Scenic for the last 4-5 years.

The 1.6 is slightly underpowered, particularly once you start loading it up with people, but its still a decent buy.

I think a diesel zaffy will do mid 40s on average where a petrol one will be mid 30s. You need to offset that though against the saving made by buying the petrol over a comparable diesel, OR against the fact that the petrol variant will be much younger / lower miles than the equivalently priced diesel car.

Also, you WILL have sporadic big bills with the diesel variant - DPF problems, dual mass flywheel problems, injector problems, etc.

darren_5

motorguy wrote: »

The 1.6 is slightly underpowered, particularly once you start loading it up with people, but its still a decent buy.

I think a diesel zaffy will do mid 40s on average where a petrol one will be mid 30s. You need to offset that though against the saving made by buying the petrol over a comparable diesel, OR against the fact that the petrol variant will be much younger / lower miles than the equivalently priced diesel car.

Also, you WILL have sporadic big bills with the diesel variant - DPF problems, dual mass flywheel problems, injector problems, etc.

Thanks Paul..

Does the 1.6i mean it has injectors, would these go wrong on a petrol? How long will petrol engines run?

I suppose my other option is:

A grand scenic or a Mazda 5 - any thought of this?

Ive seen a Grand Scenic 1.5DCI with full service histroy from a Renault dealer in Western for 7850 with about 41k on the clock.

Silver-Surfer_2

jobdone1 wrote: »

I would personally avoid both.

What's your personal experience of each car?

darren_5

Does the 1.6i mean it has injectors, would these go wrong on a petrol? How long will petrol engines run?

I suppose my other option is:

A grand scenic or a Mazda 5 - any thought of this?

Ive seen a Grand Scenic 1.5DCI with full service histroy from a Renault dealer in Western for 7850 with about 41k on the clock.