Selling from my doorstep?

runswithpencils

Does anyone sell things from a little table outside their house to make a few £s.

Not expecting to make much, but we always end up with lots of extra plants and seedlings, plus eggs from the quail.

I was hoping to pop a small table outside the front door to sell a few bits here and there, but wondering if there are any rules or regs I would have to adhere to?

I'm already registered as Self Employed with HMRC, so that would all be accounted for.

suki1964

I sell eggs from the front doorstep and will be selling seedlings and Veg as the year progresses

I work on the honesty box system which no one yet has taken advantage of

Im on a busy main road but have a large drive for people to pull into

I earn very little so I've no worries with hmrc, it pays for the hens feed

Flyonthewall

runswithpencils wrote: »

Does anyone sell things from a little table outside their house to make a few £s.

Not expecting to make much, but we always end up with lots of extra plants and seedlings, plus eggs from the quail.

I was hoping to pop a small table outside the front door to sell a few bits here and there, but wondering if there are any rules or regs I would have to adhere to?

I'm already registered as Self Employed with HMRC, so that would all be accounted for.

If you don't already, you'd need Public Liability Insurance. You may also need to contact your local council as you could end up with a group of people outside your house which may cause issues.

Check out this link as there may be others you need to inform as well: https://www.gov.uk/run-business-from-home

You may need to pay business rates. https://www.gov.uk/introduction-to-business-rates/working-at-home

"You may need to pay business rates as well as Council Tax if:

• your property is part business and part domestic, eg if you live above your shop
• you sell goods or services to people who visit your property
• you employ other people to work at your property
• you’ve made changes to your home for your business, eg converted a garage to a hairdresser’s"

suki1964 wrote: »

I sell eggs from the front doorstep and will be selling seedlings and Veg as the year progresses

I work on the honesty box system which no one yet has taken advantage of

Im on a busy main road but have a large drive for people to pull into

I earn very little so I've no worries with hmrc, it pays for the hens feed

Even if you earnt more if you are declaring it why would you have worries anyway? If by that you mean you earn little so don't declare it then you do have worries with HMRC.

You are running a business so it all needs to be declared regardless of what you earn from it (even if you make a loss or break even).

suki1964

Flyonthewall wrote: »

If you don't already, you'd need Public Liability Insurance. You may also need to contact your local council as you could end up with a group of people outside your house which may cause issues.

Check out this link as there may be others you need to inform as well: https://www.gov.uk/run-business-from-home

You may need to pay business rates. https://www.gov.uk/introduction-to-business-rates/working-at-home

"You may need to pay business rates as well as Council Tax if:

• your property is part business and part domestic, eg if you live above your shop
• you sell goods or services to people who visit your property
• you employ other people to work at your property
• you’ve made changes to your home for your business, eg converted a garage to a hairdresser’s"

Even if you earnt more if you are declaring it why would you have worries anyway? If by that you mean you earn little so don't declare it then you do have worries with HMRC.

You are running a business so it all needs to be declared regardless of what you earn from it (even if you make a loss or break even).

I am not running a business, I'm selling excess. perhaps £4 a week in eggs if that.

It's no different then if I take them down the pub and sell them there to neighbours, friends and colleagues

I've 9 hens, on average 7 eggs a day, can only eat so many a day and the people who buy them no longer need to catch me in, there's an honesty box

Will be the same with the veg and plants,excess ( only so much rhubarb we can eat) indeed the pub has told me they will buy all I can give them this year. Seeing as its from my garden it's not like I growing to sell ( which would be business)

Next you would be telling everyone who sells their cast offs on eBay they need to be registered with hmrc as sole traders

My total earned income last year was £5012. I'm pretty sure hmrc aren't going to be chasing me down for not declaring an extra possible £500 for selling stuff that would be either fed back to the hens or composted

NeverInDebt

Hey they only go after the liitle people if your a big corporation or tax dodger Tory MP your pretty safe

suki1964 wrote: »

My total earned income last year was £5012. I'm pretty sure hmrc aren't going to be chasing me down for not declaring an extra possible £500 for selling stuff that would be either fed back to the hens or composted

Flyonthewall

suki1964 wrote: »

I am not running a business, I'm selling excess. perhaps £4 a week in eggs if that.

It's no different then if I take them down the pub and sell them there to neighbours, friends and colleagues

I've 9 hens, on average 7 eggs a day, can only eat so many a day and the people who buy them no longer need to catch me in, there's an honesty box

Will be the same with the veg and plants,excess ( only so much rhubarb we can eat) indeed the pub has told me they will buy all I can give them this year. Seeing as its from my garden it's not like I growing to sell ( which would be business)

Next you would be telling everyone who sells their cast offs on eBay they need to be registered with hmrc as sole traders

My total earned income last year was £5012. I'm pretty sure hmrc aren't going to be chasing me down for not declaring an extra possible £500 for selling stuff that would be either fed back to the hens or composted

Yes, you are a business. Whether you want to believe it or not, that is a business and HMRC will have no issues with coming after you and making you prove everything.

Where and how you sell them is beside the point. Where they're from is beside the point. How much you sell and how much you make is beside the point. You grow items knowing you'll sell any extra you have. So essentially growing to sell. You sell an item for profit. That is a business. It must be declared, regardless of whether you will be taxed on it. It's that simple. That is what the law says.

It would also be very easy for HMRC to find out you are selling stuff and you are lucky they haven't already come after you. It could happen any time.

I hope you can prove where the stock comes from and how much you've sold it for because otherwise you'll have serious problems if HMRC come after you.

Be aware that the pub is a business and they will be declaring their stock and the cost. Part of that will be what you have sold to them. Like it or not, that would be a business deal and you are running a business.

d70cw6

i wouldn't get too het up about it. just do it. i can imagine hmrc's covert surveillance squad have better things to do with their time.

Flyonthewall

d70cw6 wrote: »

i wouldn't get too het up about it. just do it. i can imagine hmrc's covert surveillance squad have better things to do with their time.

You realise the entire purpose of HMRC is to make sure people are declaring earnings and paying the correct tax?

Finding people, regardless of how much they sell, who are not declaring taxes and making sure they do and that all is correct is their job. There is nothing better for them to be doing with their time. Their one and only aim is to do exactly that.

suki1964

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Yes, you are a business. Whether you want to believe it or not, that is a business and HMRC will have no issues with coming after you and making you prove everything.

Where and how you sell them is beside the point. Where they're from is beside the point. How much you sell and how much you make is beside the point. You grow items knowing you'll sell any extra you have. So essentially growing to sell. You sell an item for profit. That is a business. It must be declared, regardless of whether you will be taxed on it. It's that simple. That is what the law says.

It would also be very easy for HMRC to find out you are selling stuff and you are lucky they haven't already come after you. It could happen any time.

I hope you can prove where the stock comes from and how much you've sold it for because otherwise you'll have serious problems if HMRC come after you.

Be aware that the pub is a business and they will be declaring their stock and the cost. Part of that will be what you have sold to them. Like it or not, that would be a business deal and you are running a business.

I rang them

No I'm not running a business and no I don't have to register as self employed

However I can report untaxed earnings,mother same as everyone who sells at a car boot sale or eBay is supposed to do

Seeing as my " income" from the sale of a few dozen eggs a year is so little, the advisor was actually suppressing the giggles and said that if I felt I must then do so, but from the tone of voice I'm kinda guess he thought I was totally mental for even thinking of it


Would love to see the forms. Hmmm eggs raised £4, feed cost £7.45, bedding cost £5.50. Gonna gave a lot to register


I hope to g*d you have never ever sold at a car boot or eBay, your paperwork must be horrendous


As for the pub, it will come from the petty cash. As for growing for the intention to sell, will I ask seed producers to just put 6 seeds in a packet and will I go destroy my 10 year old rhubarb crowns because they are over producing?


Get a life

d70cw6

Flyonthewall wrote: »

You realise the entire purpose of HMRC is to make sure people are declaring earnings and paying the correct tax?

Finding people, regardless of how much they sell, who are not declaring taxes and making sure they do and that all is correct is their job. There is nothing better for them to be doing with their time. Their one and only aim is to do exactly that.

i suspect they have bigger eggs to fry.

suki1964

d70cw6 wrote: »

i suspect they have bigger eggs to fry.

They could fry one of mine, they are huge