Are you voting to remain or leave the EU - Poll

setmefree2

Johnsmith2016 wrote: »

Where is the other one?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5417092

Conrad

mayonnaise wrote: »

I was an outie at first.
When I learned I was siding with Putin, Galloway, Clapton and Marine Le Pen, I changed my mind.

I think its brilliant that the entire trough feeding political establishment is siding with the global corporations, American TTIP lobbyists and the likes of Goldman Sachs, all of whom told us the world would end if Britain failed to join the Euro


People VS power and greed


The Treasury and Osborne Q4 2015 growth predictions have already been found to be badly wrong, and you guys think we can trust them in predicting 54 quarters ahead, hahaha

Conrad

Wednesday2000 wrote: »

Remain. I haven't changed my mind the whole way through.

Because........

HornetSaver

Conrad wrote: »

I think its brilliant that the entire trough feeding political establishment is siding with the global corporations, American TTIP lobbyists and the likes of Goldman Sachs, all of whom told us the world would end if Britain failed to join the Euro


People VS power and greed


The IMF's main economic predictions have been wrong 99.34% of the time.
The Treasury and Osborne Q4 2015 growth predictions have already been found to be badly wrong, and you guys think we can trust them in predicting 54 quarters ahead, hahaha

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought this thread was a prediction about which way people will vote, not about which decision is the correct one?

I think the British people will vote for the status quo because they always tend to do so in the end. Whether that's a good decision is a different question altogether.

Conrad

HornetSaver wrote: »

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought this thread was a prediction about which way people will vote, not about which decision is the correct one?

Sorry old boy, I didn't realise a conversation was policed and tightly bound, but it's worth noting we already have EU poll threads up n running


I will give myself a slap on the wrist / bottom

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

Because........

Probably the same reason you and I haven't changed our minds - they were made up before this process started.

We've spent all/ most of our lives in the EU. It's inconceivable that most people won't already have an idea on how they might vote. I find the idea that people will be dissuaded of these ideas in the last few weeks based on the mutterings of Gove, Farage, Obama et al a tad unlikely.

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

Probably the same reason you and I haven't changed our minds - they were made up before this process started.

We've spent all/ most of our lives in the EU. It's inconceivable that most people won't already have an idea on how they might vote. I find the idea that people will be dissuaded of these ideas in the last few weeks based on the mutterings of Gove, Farage, Obama et al a tad unlikely.

There's a mass of undecided out there, non political nerds that have never thought about these questions, so there's everything to fight for but the carpet bombing by the entire establishment will be very hard to beat.


I don't know if you caught Newsnight this week with the 2 sides in debate and a small audience. By the end of it, having for once not only been fed the establishment lines, the audience was majority in favour of Brexit.


I think QT last night also showed an audience gradually coming round to Brexit when exposed to both sides of the argument (usually QT panels are 4 out of 5 in favour of remain)

mwpt

Conrad wrote: »

I think QT last night also showed an audience gradually coming round to Brexit when exposed to both sides of the argument (usually QT panels are 4 out of 5 in favour of remain)

That's because the emotional argument favours the leave campaign. You might talk about project fear but the remain side are trying to win the economic argument while the leave side are appealing to patriotism and national pride. Easy to see why these forces are seductively strong and how easy to is to win an argument with the general populace going a bit misty eyed on figures but understanding full well what "make our own laws", "overcrowding", "reduced services" mean.

cells

I would vote leave if we could copy Australia migration policy which seems to be to let in over a million migrants a year (scaled up to UK proportion)

But since the out voters primary aim is to try and reduce population growth to zero. I will vote stay as copying Japan or even worse one of the population decline countries will not be pretty

Conrad

cells wrote: »

I would vote leave if we could copy Australia migration policy which seems to be to let in over a million migrants a year (scaled up to UK proportion)


+ What about our lack of land mass and the fact we're already 40% reliant on imports for food? How much more reliant on food imports would you like us to be, and in the event of a war or global pandemic, you would enjoy this reliance on imports?


+ British agriculture is having to try and produce ever higher crop yields which requires ever more chemical intensive farming.


I take it you welcome even more of this, as you so adore expanding the Human swarm? We could even build on more farmland as well, yayy.


But since the out voters primary aim is to try and reduce population growth to zero.


So you would like relentless population expansion? Your Grandchildren will surely thank you for it - I mean we just don't have enough Humans here do we, especially in the SE...
I love the fact The New Forest is no longer so magical, but crawling with Humans on holiday unlike the boring quiet place I endured as a child - brilliant


I adore the destructive effects of all this expansion and consumption, its fab for wildlife eh, oh and don't you just love all the wildlife being wiped out by us Humans cats - another thing to celebrate for sure

Me in red, bring on the masses - as a LL it will only make me richer...I mean as you say money is THE be all and end all


Lets cheer-on the day we have 200 million Humans here all vying for resources, yay, how enlightened am I!!!!