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First primary school allocation worry

DonPoppleton
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Did you get your first choice Primary school place? If not, will it cost you more in e.g., transport costs and time? Will it impact on childcare for your other children? Maybe you're thinking about changing your work pattern to fit around it? And are you going to appeal?

Thanks to DonPoppleton for starting off the conversation! We've added to your title to help others who might want to join in :)


Good morning. Im sure many mums are waking up this morning to find where their 4 year olds will be going in September.

My daughter lives in a different county from me and has woke me very early in tears. My grandson has been given a school which they never selected on the list when they went to view several a few months ago.

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How do you lodge an appeal

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Im sure there are going to be many heart broken mums and dads this morning over the Uk.
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  • silvercar
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    Some schools are oversubscribed. You need to look at the admission criteria for each school applied for and see how near a place your grandson is.

    It can't have been a surprise to get none of the schools on your list, schools are generally very open about their admission criteria.

    Your appeal to the school(s) you want needs to focus on why you feel you met the admission critera and/or why that school would meet the needs of the child.

    Slagging off the school you have been allocated, particularly in the bordering racist way you have, won't magic a place at a preferred school.
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  • tomtontom
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    How many schools did your daughter put down, and how many could she have? I sit on appeals panels and the number of parents that only put one or two is astounding.

    I would not judge a school on the number of languages spoken. We live in a multi cultural society, it is positive to have a child brought up accordingly. Also keep in mind that a school in special measures might next year be outstanding, and vice versa.

    In terms of appealing there are few grounds on which an infant class size appeal will be successful. You are free to do so but nothing you have said suggests an exceptional appeal. More information on your local authority website.
  • nearlyrich
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    Schools in special measures get help and support extra funding etc. to improve. A multicultural school is not a bad school your grandchild will get to mix with lots of cultures and learn from them.


    If no-one went to schools in special measures they would not be able to improve.
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  • Thanks for the replies. The ofstead report is very poor, way under national average in every catagory. Only 43% speak English, itchas a rating of 2. 54% acieve the maths score where average is 80% only 10% reach the maths level the average point score is 25.5 and 42% on free school meals, thats ofstead talking not me. As for the comment regarding racism, thats very unfair as its an ofstead comment. So are ofstead racists? Very unfair.
  • tomtontom
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    Thanks for the replies. The ofstead report is very poor, way under national average in every catagory. Only 43% speak English, itchas a rating of 2. 54% acieve the maths score where average is 80% only 10% reach the maths level the average point score is 25.5 and 42% on free school meals, thats ofstead talking not me. As for the comment regarding racism, thats very unfair as its an ofstead comment. So are ofstead racists? Very unfair.

    Ofsted are reporting a fact, you're making a judgement.

    There's no reason why your granddaughter should not be one of the higher attaining children.

    You're still giving no valid reason for a successful appeal.
  • selement
    selement Posts: 518 Forumite
    A school being multi cultural does not make it a bad school and you are very incorrect to think it does. I know the discussion is primary schools but some of the best secondary schools in Birmingham are very multi cultural. You should forget that as a reason why it isn't good.
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  • onlyroz
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    When my daughter received her reception place there were children who lived two streets away from the school that were turned down for a place. My daughter got her place based on sibling criteria, which is very fortunate, otherwise I would have had to take her to a school further away.


    The fact is that there is a massive shortage of primary school places, and when making your selections you should take this into account. I highly recommend ensuring that you put your closest school down as one of your selections, even if it isn't your first choice. This is the school your child is most likely to get into. If you don't put it down as one of your choices then your child will probably be placed at the least popular school in your local authority.
  • k3lvc
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    MoneySavingExpert Insert:

    Did you get your first choice Primary school place? If not, will it cost you more in e.g., transport costs and time? Will it impact on childcare for your other children? Maybe you're thinking about changing your work pattern to fit around it? And are you going to appeal?

    Thanks to DonPoppleton for starting off the conversation! We've added to your title to help others who might want to join in :)


    Good morning. Im sure many mums are waking up this morning to find where their 4 year olds will be going in September.

    My daughter lives in a different county from me and has woke me very early in tears. My grandson has been given a school which they never selected on the list when they went to view several a few months ago.

    This school has a very unhealthy ofstead report, they speak 15 languages so thats telling us how many different kind of children go thrre. Its very worrying that there is a very high percentage of these children are not the same nationality of my grandson

    How do you lodge an appeal, this is very unfair to do to a child, sending to a school that was never considered but sending to a school that is in special measrures and has a very poor ofstead report.

    Children cannt develop to a good potential in schools like this.

    Im sure there are going to be many heart broken mums and dads this morning over the Uk.


    Interesting insert from MSE Towers to the OP given that none of those reasons are mentioned in the OP's post which seems to stem from racist bigotry (hidden by references to OFSTED) and a sense of entitlement that little Johnny deserves so much better.
  • Spendless
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    I think the way it is put that parents get to 'choose' which school they send their child to, is misleading and I wish it would stop.

    All schools have an admission criteria. The most popular/successful schools will fill all their places using the top criteria/s. If you don't fit that criteria then you're unlikely to get a place there.

    I moved into catchment area on purpose when my eldest was only 1, as I knew that he would not get into my preferred school otherwise. Still a risky strategy as the school could have gone downhill in the interim. Thankfully, it didn't.
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