Cameron spending £9 Million on Brexit Propaganda.

angrypirate

mayonnaise wrote: »

Ah, found it.
https://www.eureferendum.gov.uk/why-the-government-believes-we-should-remain/eu-referendum-leaflet/

Where's the propaganda?

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"Tough new restrictions on access to welfare"?
Bit rich calling them tough. In fact, they are anything but tough and it looks like they are going to be subject to a legal challenge in the EU courts

Rinoa

The electoral commission believe it's unfair. They are usually diplomatic.

Meanwhile top civil servants funded by the tax payer have been seconded to assist the remain campaign. Cameron has of course forbidden any such civil servants from helping leave.

http://order-order.com/2016/04/07/electoral-commission-9-million-taxpayer-cash-gives-remain-unfair-advantage/

mayonnaise

angrypirate wrote: »

Page 2 (and i havent got any further)
"Tough new restrictions on access to welfare"?
Bit rich calling them tough. In fact, they are anything but tough and it looks like they are going to be subject to a legal challenge in the EU courts

Scrapping in work benefits for 4 years is not tough?

Let's be honest here, no matter how tough the new rules would be, they'd never be tough enough for you.

wymondham

People need and seek unbiased facts. Neither pro/con can supply those. Maybe both can supply their version of events to a 3d party who can check if they are in fact correct?

mayonnaise

Rinoa wrote: »

Meanwhile top civil servants funded by the tax payer have been seconded to assist the remain campaign.

No, they're assisting the government of the day. Which is exactly what they're supposed to do.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/civil-service/about

What we do
The Civil Service helps the government of the day develop and implement its policies as effectively as possible.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Rinoa wrote: »

Meanwhile top civil servants funded by the tax payer have been seconded to assist the remain campaign. Cameron has of course forbidden any such civil servants from helping leave.

The official policy of the UK Government is that it is in the National Interest of the UK to remain in the EU.

And the role of the civil service is to assist the government of the day in implementing government policy.... Not to sabotage government policy.

michaels

mayonnaise wrote: »

Scrapping in work benefits for 4 years is not tough?

Let's be honest here, no matter how tough the new rules would be, they'd never be tough enough for you.

I thought we were dealing in facts - Isn't the agreement a sliding scale rather than 'scrapping for 4 years', the '4 years' is actually 'up to 4 years', it will only be applied on a temporary basis as an emergency brake not forever and only if agreed by all other member states.

Still, no 'red lines' have been crossed!

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

Scrapping in work benefits for 4 years is not tough?

Let's be honest here, no matter how tough the new rules would be, they'd never be tough enough for you.

as I understand it, the 4 years rough rules can only apply over the first 7 years

so in 7 years time there will be no rules at all.

personally, I don't think the brake will ever be implemented but if it did, its strictly temporary anyway.
no long term thinking there.

Thrugelmir

mayonnaise wrote: »

It looks like the leave campaign doesn't want an informed electorate.
I wonder why... :think:

The taxpayer will equally fund their campaign.

leveller2911

michaels wrote: »

I thought we were dealing in facts - Isn't the agreement a sliding scale rather than 'scrapping for 4 years', the '4 years' is actually 'up to 4 years', it will only be applied on a temporary basis as an emergency brake not forever and only if agreed by all other member states.

Still, no 'red lines' have been crossed!

Yep ,spot on correct. The fact is Cameron came back with a "Peace in our time" scrap of paper that entirely relies on 27 other countries agreeing to the policy. Its as you say a "sliding scale" of benefit entitlement but we haven't been told what the scale actually is, only that its "for up to 4 years "and that once implemented it cannot be used in the future so its not a long term policy at all.

Everything Cameron came back with is based on a verbal promise from a bunch of self serving political elite crooks. The entire deal needs to be ratified in the future treaties so plenty of time to be watered down and quietly shoved under the carpet.

The UK will have the right to take the EU to court over its deal if we think the EU are not abiding by the deal .I read somewhere that Norway has a similar deal with the EU and has taken the EU to the courts but the courts ruled against Norway on every single case.


As always the devil is in the detail......

If the govt of the day was in favour of leaving the EU and they have forked out £9m of taxpayers money on propaganda I'm sure there would be a few on here shouting from the roof tops of how undemocratic it was.

Anyone who accepts the words of a politicians pamphlet shouldn't be allowed out alone without a carer.