Contact order

FBaby

Basicly most of it was about me not engaging with social services not going to meetings, not doing the triple p course etc only reason I never went as we split up and most of the meeting was about her and the kids so pointless me going as it wasn't about me.

I'm not going to judge but give a straight forward answer. The only way you have a change of unsupervised access in these cicumstances if if you do exactly what they are telling you you need to do.

Trying to justify that they are in the wrong is only going to take you backwards so if you really want to have access to your daughter, I'd advised to completely forget about that plan.

Unfortunately, if you'd engaged with them, attended meetings etc..., then you would either already be at that point, or getting much closer to it. As it stands, you'll have to start all over again, so might be months if not years before it will be considered. You better start sticking to their schedule.

missbiggles1

Why didn't you want to do the parenting course?

pigpen

It was possible to do the Triple P course by correspondance .. so you don't need time off work you can do it all online.. but it is totally stupid.. worth looking at if that is what is holding things up... it might still be. .. ah.. no its not..

http://www.familylives.org.uk/how-we-can-help/online-parenting-courses/triple-p/


SS will lie and make up stuff and be out and out anus-like if they believe the things said about you and if that is the case you don't stand a chance you may as well just go along with it. They are unreliable, nasty and vindictive and unless you bow and scrape and let them control your life you don't stand a chance.. Someone will be along to say otherwise but no doubt will have no experience of their visciousness and stupidity.. they are paid to split up families.. that seems to be their ultimate goal. They will even lie under oath in court and won't check up on any allegations they just sheep along to their next pay check.

They don't adhere to their job description or their obligations.. they won't even stick to court orders. It is all about whether they like you or not.

My advice.. back off until they go away.. if you do what they want they produce more hoops for you to jump through.. and more and more.. it is never ending..

missbiggles1

pigpen wrote: »

It was possible to do the Triple P course by correspondance .. so you don't need time off work you can do it all online.. but it is totally stupid.. worth looking at if that is what is holding things up... it might still be. .. ah.. no its not..

http://www.familylives.org.uk/how-we-can-help/online-parenting-courses/triple-p/


SS will lie and make up stuff and be out and out anus-like if they believe the things said about you and if that is the case you don't stand a chance you may as well just go along with it. They are unreliable, nasty and vindictive and unless you bow and scrape and let them control your life you don't stand a chance.. Someone will be along to say otherwise but no doubt will have no experience of their visciousness and stupidity.. they are paid to split up families.. that seems to be their ultimate goal. They will even lie under oath in court and won't check up on any allegations they just sheep along to their next pay check.

They don't adhere to their job description or their obligations.. they won't even stick to court orders. It is all about whether they like you or not.

My advice.. back off until they go away.. if you do what they want they produce more hoops for you to jump through.. and more and more.. it is never ending..

Utter, utter BS!

pigpen

like i said.. no experience.


Come speak to my children about CF.. I have texts proving the lies..


From the text.. I quote..

'I'm sorry you feel the assessments are wrong. Don't forget I completed them before we had any discussion'

Yet every other sentence was stuff I had allegedly said.. if it was appropriate I'd let you have a copy!


The previous one who dealt with my sons ex-gf lost her job because her vile behaviour was purely to have her son taken off her.. with absolutely no reason other than gf was young and the SW didn't like her.

HurdyGurdy

Ronnierhino7 wrote: »

The allegations made were that I hurt the kids

The allegations must have come from somewhere. Something the children may have said that got taken out of context maybe

Ronnierhino7 wrote: »

I also put her first,

But only if it didn't impact on your own activities? That's actually putting yourself first, not putting your daughter first

Ronnierhino7 wrote: »

I always like how people judge you on these forums instead of helping people

It's not judging you. It's responding to the information that is presented. And just because the responses aren't what you want to hear, doesn't mean they're not helpful

Ronnierhino7 wrote: »

sometimes people don't hearing the truth on these forums.

Ain't that the truth!

Ronnierhino7 wrote: »

I know I am no angel

If you elaborate a bit more on that, then people may be able to give you more detailed responses. "no angel" could mean anything - someone who has spray painted a building, or a football hooligan, or someone who has been done for D&D, or a mugger, or a perpetrator of DV, or someone who drives an uninsured car. The list is endless of what could be classed as "no angel".

Ronnierhino7 wrote: »

most of the meetings were not about me so don't see the need of me sitting there for a hour wasting my time.

Most, but not all. It isn't a waste of time if it ultimately ends up with you having your desired unsupervised contact with your daughter.


Your responses on here HAVE been very "taking my bat and ball home". If you do self represent in court, you can expect some very searching questions being asked of you, and you really cannot sulk like a petulant child in court and expect to be taken seriously. Honestly - you really need to speak to a solicitor, if only for an initial half hour consultation, to see what they rate your chances of success.

GwylimT

pigpen wrote: »

It was possible to do the Triple P course by correspondance .. so you don't need time off work you can do it all online.. but it is totally stupid.. worth looking at if that is what is holding things up... it might still be. .. ah.. no its not..

http://www.familylives.org.uk/how-we-can-help/online-parenting-courses/triple-p/


SS will lie and make up stuff and be out and out anus-like if they believe the things said about you and if that is the case you don't stand a chance you may as well just go along with it. They are unreliable, nasty and vindictive and unless you bow and scrape and let them control your life you don't stand a chance.. Someone will be along to say otherwise but no doubt will have no experience of their visciousness and stupidity.. they are paid to split up families.. that seems to be their ultimate goal. They will even lie under oath in court and won't check up on any allegations they just sheep along to their next pay check.

They don't adhere to their job description or their obligations.. they won't even stick to court orders. It is all about whether they like you or not.

My advice.. back off until they go away.. if you do what they want they produce more hoops for you to jump through.. and more and more.. it is never ending..

Thats what my sons biological parents said, they were even in the national news. Sadly people supported these two creatures who were sexually abusing him, using him to put out fags and at just over a year old he had a total of 12 broken bones.

Views such as yours meant he stayed in their care longer and suffered more abuse.

squirrelchops

OP - have a look at the Family Rights Group pages online. They offer a lot of advice to people who have had or are having children's services intervention.