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Selling House - ex partner won't / can't sign

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  • candygirl
    candygirl Posts: 29,455 Forumite
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    Yea i found that buying my ex a bit of food n stuff, and doing the sympathy act worked a treat.The way I look at it is if they don't contribute to something they can't ( or shouldn't)benefit from it later.I'm sure depressed or not, seeing you will cheer him up enough to sign the papers.Let us know how you get on hun xx ps the worst bit is the waiting;)
    "You can't stop the waves, but you can learn to surf"

    (Kabat-Zinn 2004):D:D:D
  • matto
    matto Posts: 650 Forumite
    I think if I was in your shoes I'd forge a signature.
  • Badger_Lady
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    matto wrote:
    I think if I was in your shoes I'd forge a signature.

    Funny enough, when we were together and he was going through his depression I used to forge his signature all the time. He'd be there watching me, fully aware of what I was doing and that it was in his best interest - he just wasn't able to pick up the pen himself.

    However, I really think this is a bit different - firstly, we're no longer in a trusting relationship; secondly, it would be without his permission and therefore thoroughly illegal; thirdly, he would be aware (at some level anyway) that I had done this, and could therefore persue legal action (as unlikely as it is that he'd get in gear to do so).
    Mortgage | £145,000Unsecured Debt | [strike]£7,000[/strike] £0 Lodgers | |
  • Just a thought - if his mental state is that bad, would anything he signed be legal anyway - you know, "sound mind and body" and all that. There must be some kind of precedence that your solicitor should be able to advise on
  • Badger_Lady
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    My Solicitor hasn't got any suggestions, just lots of sympathy and crossed fingers!

    The main problem is that he won't see a Doctor, and the health system in this country is really lacking when it comes to mental health - if he won't seek help, he won't receive it.

    This was the issue when we lived together - he couldn't claim sick pay / incapacity benefit because he wouldn't obtain a Doctor's note! That, in turn, meant we couldn't get housing / council tax benefit and my menial nurse's wage had to pay for everything. Hence the debt.

    He's been going through cycles of depression for 8 years now without medical intervention... he was prescribed antidepressants before that but stopped taking them because they "changed his personality".

    I'll be honest - I don't know how "sound mind and body" works, but I assume he has to be very seriously incapacitated with medical evidence. If he could be deemed as such, presumably his Mother would have to seek Power of Attorney and sign on his behalf (which would at least be something, even if it means a helluva long delay).

    Thanks for your help - every word is comforting right now :-)
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  • candygirl
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    My Solicitor hasn't got any suggestions, just lots of sympathy and crossed fingers!

    The main problem is that he won't see a Doctor, and the health system in this country is really lacking when it comes to mental health - if he won't seek help, he won't receive it.

    This was the issue when we lived together - he couldn't claim sick pay / incapacity benefit because he wouldn't obtain a Doctor's note! That, in turn, meant we couldn't get housing / council tax benefit and my menial nurse's wage had to pay for everything. Hence the debt.

    He's been going through cycles of depression for 8 years now without medical intervention... he was prescribed antidepressants before that but stopped taking them because they "changed his personality".

    I'll be honest - I don't know how "sound mind and body" works, but I assume he has to be very seriously incapacitated with medical evidence. If he could be deemed as such, presumably his Mother would have to seek Power of Attorney and sign on his behalf (which would at least be something, even if it means a helluva long delay).

    Thanks for your help - every word is comforting right now :-)

    Because time is of the essence, it is imo pointless going down the unfit mind route.Think the original plan, coaxing and cajoling;) will work a treat.Go for it:T :T
    "You can't stop the waves, but you can learn to surf"

    (Kabat-Zinn 2004):D:D:D
  • I'm sorry I don't have any useful advice I just wanted to say good luck and hope it works out for you.
  • Update

    I went to ex's house last night, and knocked on the door - he answered and was fully clothed!

    He smiled politely, but wouldn't open the door fully or invite me in, and it was quite clear that he wanted me to leave ASAP.

    He said that he hadn't received anything in the post yet - I explained the situation, and told him to expect a Land Registry form in the next day or so, which would need to be signed, witnessed and returned in the freepost envelope.

    I asked if that was OK, and he said "yes", and closed the door.

    So not very definitive... I'm going to head back tonight (good job I like driving, these 240 mile round trips take some time!). Will update again next week, I'm off to the Bestival tomorrow...

    Thanks for all your support - I'm still nervous, but feeling much better today :-)
    Mortgage | £145,000Unsecured Debt | [strike]£7,000[/strike] £0 Lodgers | |
  • Update

    Well, we didn't complete today.

    I came back from the Isle of Wight on Monday and headed straight over to ex's house. There was no answer at the door and the curtains were drawn (I genuinely couldn't say whether he was in or not.)

    I sat outside in the car for 3 hours, going back to ring the doorbell once every hour, and found no sign of him.

    The Solicitor has sent him a chaser letter, and I'll follow it up with another visit (via 240 mile drive) tomorrow night.

    The buyers are very upset - they were organised to move in today and are really getting fed up with all these delays :-(
    Mortgage | £145,000Unsecured Debt | [strike]£7,000[/strike] £0 Lodgers | |
  • Oh dear poor you. sign? Have you explained the situation fully to your buyers? Maybe next time you go round you could provide some kind of incentive for opening the door (a food parcel perhaps?) Might make him more ready to let you in. Good luck X
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