Choosing new broadband

rainbow93

My virgin package was £53 or it will be £30 a month for just broadband.

My son does online gaming and we use the internet a lot so BT said we'd need fibre optic broadband.

The cheaper broadband doesn't use fibre. Is it much slower?
BT said we'd need infinity 1 + weekend calls + We can get free sport at £27.99.

I'm just wondering about the quality of BT and other providers as Virgin WiFi is reliable but seems to be the dearest.

What are peoples experience of other providers? Who's the best?

worried_jim

Going from VM Fibre to BT copper will be like going from a Rolls Royce to a Lada. Your son wont thank you for it. Call VM and haggle for a better deal.

Browntoa

Or bite the bullet and pay for unlimited fibre , you may get a cheaper deal from plusnet , which is owned by BT

Wifi is wifi , shouldn't be a difference between the 2 providers

macman

If you are on VM cable then you will need a BT-based landline provisioning or reconnecting before you can get any ADSL or FTTC services. ADSL speeds are primarily dependent on distance from the exchange, and you can easily get an estimate of either ADSL or FTTC speeds using the potential supplier's websites. Plusnet is just one example.
Of course BT will try to upsell you to FTTC, the question is what kind of speed you can get from ADSL alone. If that is inadequate, your only option is FTTC. Then look at the LLU options available on your exchange, if any, using samknows.com, most likely TalkTalk and Sky.
There is no 'best' supplier, because (non VM) broadband is exchange-specific.

rainbow93

worried_jim wrote: »

Going from VM Fibre to BT copper will be like going from a Rolls Royce to a Lada. Your son wont thank you for it. Call VM and haggle for a better deal.

Really. BT optic fibre is far worse. Is Virgin the best for bb. So it will affect my teenagers gaming.lol He likes to watch Netflix too.

rainbow93

I've got a landline BT as it was a new house. It seems cable is stronger than others.I cancelled a few days ago I wonder if detentions will call back. She didn't seem bothered when I cancelled though.

boliston

I have noticed that Virgin seem quite secretive about upload speeds but it looks like uploads could be as slow as 6% of the download speed. I'm not sure why this is so slow compared with FTTC uploads being 25% of download speed.

JJ_Egan

rainbow93 wrote: »

I've got a landline BT as it was a new house. It seems cable is stronger than others.I cancelled a few days ago I wonder if detentions will call back. She didn't seem bothered when I cancelled though.

VM cable is far higher capacity than OR Fibre and both are much faster and more reliable than copper ADSL .

boliston

JJ_Egan wrote: »

VM cable is far higher capacity than OR Fibre and both are much faster and more reliable than copper ADSL .

They do 50, 100 and 200mb download speeds compared with 80 download speed on OR fibre so only really "much" faster if you go with the top 200mb package and you still get a much slower upload rate of only 12mb upload (only just over half the speed of OR fibre) so not much use if you need to back up much data

worried_jim

boliston wrote: »

I have noticed that Virgin seem quite secretive about upload speeds but it looks like uploads could be as slow as 6% of the download speed. I'm not sure why this is so slow compared with FTTC uploads being 25% of download speed.

Probably my worst result this month-

boliston

worried_jim wrote: »

Probably my worst result this month-

Is that the 100/12 package? I would have expected the IP overhead to take it down to about 92mb so 71 seems quite a big overhead on cable.

On FTTC i normally get the expected reduction from 80 to about 74:


although the 13ms ping seems quite high compared with ping via the console when i normally get 11ms for a uk based host:

Pinging boliston.com [2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe56:3a1c] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe56:3a1c: time=11ms
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