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Chuggers - when will charities ever learn!!!!

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  • REEN
    REEN Posts: 547 Forumite
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    I signed up to donate to the Lancashire Wildlife Trust at a stand in my local supermarket. I made sure first that there would be no sharing of my details, attempts to get me to increase donations, etc. The man had obviously had these questions before and assured me the charity doesn't do this. It seems the message is getting through slowly, at least to some charities.
  • poppycracker
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    Alter_ego wrote: »
    Sorry Bob, I work for a large UK charity. Chugging works - I'm not making it up! Not an idiot either.

    It works because for every strong minded person who gets past them, there are 10 more timid people who feel they 'have' to stop and then get pressured into signing up. I know, I used to be one until I got vicious in my old age!

    Chugging is immoral. Simple as. I have a horror of DDs, due to debt problems in the past and I will never take out one that is not absolutely essential. No tin, no donation, sorry. Oh and dont even bother coming to my door, I have no problem shutting it in your cheery face. Put a foot in the door? Lose a toe. :mad:
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  • summerlady_2
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    Pollycat wrote: »
    Did you tell SCOPE that they were door-knocking elderly people?

    I would also have reported them to the Council.



    Hi - I made it quite clear to SCOPE that they were doing this. It was only a few weeks after all the furore of a woman who killed herself apparently having been persistently targeted by such people.


    The SCOPE person was very apologetic and said she would let me know what they were going to do about it, but I heard absolutely nothing (which is probably what they did).
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  • Pollycat
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    summerlady wrote: »
    Hi - I made it quite clear to SCOPE that they were doing this. It was only a few weeks after all the furore of a woman who killed herself apparently having been persistently targeted by such people.


    The SCOPE person was very apologetic and said she would let me know what they were going to do about it, but I heard absolutely nothing (which is probably what they did).
    I complained to Greenpeace about some chuggers who were very abusive to my OH when he told them he wasn't interested.

    Basically, one of them accused him of being racist.
    I confronted him in the street and it turned quite nasty.
    I managed to get the name of one of the chuggers from his id - he belatedly tried to hide it with his hand but I called him by his name, much to his dismay. :rotfl:

    The last we saw of the chuggers, the other 2 were berating the one who'd played the 'you're a racist card' saying 'we'll get into trouble over this now. She was that mad at what you said'.

    I emailed Greenpeace as soon as I got into the house and they did email back saying they'd told the agency the behaviour of the people they employed was unacceptable and they didn't want those 3 particular people to ever represent Greenpeace again.

    Might just have been lip-service to pacify me but better than nothing.
  • System
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    Do you remember the charities ringing people asking to put envelopes through letterboxes in their street and the next? Think Christian Aid was one.

    I remember as a kid, my friend's parents were selected in the early 90s. Once they collected the 100 odd envelopes, which wasn't all of them delivered. People weren't happy giving to charity. Me and my friend counted the money. About £20. Wasn't worth the bother.

    One put buttons in the envelope so felt he put money in there.
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  • warehouse
    warehouse Posts: 3,362 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Chugging may work short term but I've not given a penny to charity since being wound up by chuggers in London in the mid 90's.
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  • dealer_wins
    dealer_wins Posts: 7,334 Forumite
    warehouse wrote: »
    Chugging may work short term but I've not given a penny to charity since being wound up by chuggers in London in the mid 90's.

    I think a lot of these big charities are run more for the board members to get rich rather than do any good.

    I am of the view that charities should have NO paid employees/board members/chuggers etc, and I only give to those that have this in place.
  • Scope at my door three times in 4 hours..grr , I even saw them pull up in a motor get out and hi five how they were going to hit their targets, I never ever engage chuggers , I only give to the local homeless charity shop, or straight cash to the beggars , these outsourced companies that charities use are scammers , conning the gullible for doorstepping , and knocking you on a dd whilst fat cats on both sides coin it .
  • Pollycat
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    Scope at my door three times in 4 hours..grr , I even saw them pull up in a motor get out and hi five how they were going to hit their targets, I never ever engage chuggers , I only give to the local homeless charity shop, or straight cash to the beggars , these outsourced companies that charities use are scammers , conning the gullible for doorstepping , and knocking you on a dd whilst fat cats on both sides coin it .
    I never, ever give money to beggars.
    It's possible they have a Merc parked round the corner and a 5 bedroomed house to go back to after their 'hard day at work'.
    Or maybe your money goes to fuel a drug or drink habit.

    I've seen someone give a newly-bought pack of sandwiches to a beggar for him to toss it away like rubbish.
  • Malthusian
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    summerlady wrote:
    People have become less trusting of charities - personal details are passed from one charity to another (for money, no doubt).

    And to scammers.

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    (Apologies for those with Daily Mail allergies, but it really is an excellent bit of research.)
    Hi - I made it quite clear to SCOPE that they were doing this. It was only a few weeks after all the furore of a woman who killed herself apparently having been persistently targeted by such people.

    The SCOPE person was very apologetic and said she would let me know what they were going to do about it, but I heard absolutely nothing (which is probably what they did).
    They probably rang the agent and doubled their contract. Given that a member of the public had rung them up to tell them what an excellent job they were doing of demographic targeting.
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