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Council Tax Benefit enquiry
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Right to buy council houses. In the land registry I believe the person im speaking on behalf for has her name registered in the land registry at both properties.
No she doesn't fully own both properties.
These 2 properties were council houses that were bought from the council so the council obviously knew who were the home buyers were meaning the council already knew her circumstances right?
She lives in her main home and gets half her council tax paid there. The other half council tax there is for the other owner.
She visits the other home to care for a pensioner full time. The pensioner get his council tax fully paid.
She lives at both addresses basically.
So does it all come down to land registry home ownership details to say whether a person is liable for council tax or not or whether the person is living there or not?
The land registry is irrelevant - otherwise people renting would have no liability for council tax, which clearly isn't the case. Council tax liability is on whoever is living in a property.
I think the situation you're describing is:
She lives in property A, which she owns with someone else (a partner?).
She gets a council tax reduction in property A.
She part owns (perhaps with a relative?) property B.
She spends a lot of time at property B because she cares for someone who lives there.
She can't live in two properties - you can't be in two places at once. I'd say that she lives in property A. Is that where her bills go to, the address her GP has for her, and so on?
I'm going to ignore the stuff about income support and concentrate on council tax.
So your friend is liable for council tax in property A, since that's where she lives.
Whoever is living in property B is liable for council tax there.
People can only get council tax support in one place. Part owning a second property could stop her getting this though, which is why people are asking who owns what and how.
If that's not the situation then you need to start answering the questions people have been asking.
For those who are asking how someone can own 50% of two ex council properties, the answer's 'quite easily', just like it is for any other property. Someone buys their own with a partner, relative or even friend. They then inherit half a property. Or, because they're now home owners themselves they can help their parent (or anyone else) buy their home. Or a couple could inherit a property from each sets of parents. Or...Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.0 -
marliepanda wrote: »Elderly people in their 60s? I think a lot of 60 year olds would object to being called elderly...
But yes, many qualify for full support with council tax but they will all be expected to pay 'something'
Someone with half of TWO houses should not be claiming income support and should be paying council tax on both. It seems they are not. That sounds fraudulent, and you haven't answered any questions about the double house situation.
I thought 65+ years is classed as elderly ?0 -
You can only have one main address. As she part-owns another property it's hard to see how she is entitled to claim income support.
Has she told the DWP that she has capital in another property?
If the OP is being as vague (obtuse?) as they are here, the DWP are probably still trying to work it out!
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It is with Birmingham city council.
Ok students and kids are exempt from council tax, what about elderly people in their 60s?
Lol fraudulently claiming what? I am here to seek clarification and advise legitimately. A frauding person wouldn't care less and still continue regardless of what the law says or not. I am here to find out what the law says. Its better than being ignorant. Ignorance is not a valid excuse anyway.
Elderly people in their 60s (like me!) are not exempt from Council Tax . If they claim means-tested Pension Credit then they don't have to pay any, but they are not exempt. Many elderly people in their 60s (like me) pay full CT; my husband and I pay full CT on two properties.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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My mum is in her eighties, has her state pension and a very small private pension (less than £20 a week), and pays council tax. She doesn't pay the full amount as she receives her 25% discount as the only person in the property, plus council tax support due to low income. Age does not make you exempt from paying CT.
One group of people that are exempt are those with severe mental impairment. My son has a learning disability that is severe enough to be covered by this, so when he reaches the point where he is no longer in FT education (19), I will still be counted as a single adult. However, he cannot be left unsupervised, will never be able to vote, is highly unlikely to work , and will never be 'cured'.0 -
It is with Birmingham city council.
Ok students and kids are exempt from council tax, what about elderly people in their 60s?
Lol fraudulently claiming what? I am here to seek clarification and advise legitimately. A frauding person wouldn't care less and still continue regardless of what the law says or not. I am here to find out what the law says. Its better than being ignorant. Ignorance is not a valid excuse anyway.
60 is NOT elderly, it is not even retirement age:mad: Most of us poor pensioners do actually pay council tax as well as income tax0 -
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Housing_Benefit_Officer wrote: »Smells somewhat troll like.
Or someone panicking now that they think their benefit fiddle may be caught :rotfl:Spelling courtesy of the whims of auto correct...
Pet Peeves.... queues, vain people and hypocrites ..not necessarily in that order.0 -
I think its best to visit the citizens advice bureau and get local advise there as someone said earlier every council is different with their own rules so answers given in this thread maybe confusing to the reader.
Before I do go you guys are confirming that land registry and property ownership has nothing to do with council tax liability and instead its based on who's living there? Is this a universal rule applying to all councils?
Regarding the benefit she's getting, you are telling me all benefit claimants not allowed to own or part own a property?
These council houses are not like £300000-4000000 price tag like they are in London. They are bought cheap because council gave them a discount bringing the price of a house to under £20000.
Ok thanks for the advise, I see what the CAB says.0 -
Regarding the benefit she's getting, you are telling me all benefit claimants not allowed to own or part own a property?
They are allowed to own the property they live in.
If they own or part-own another property, then they have capital and claiming means tested benefits like income support would be fraud.0
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