Chicken shops or coffee shops?

prosaver

heres a quick preview of the old iom tt race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukCc3c6RVo4

looks quite nice

zagubov

The IoM is an interesting place. I had a holiday there as a child. I think they filmed the Shadowline TV series there. Unlike the Channel Isles it has an NHS very much like ours but I think you have to live there for 5 years before you can access it. And seeing a specialist involves flying you to Liverpool.

I live in Surrey but not sure I'd like the remoteness of the IoM. Good luck with your decision.

chucknorris

zagubov wrote: »

The IoM is an interesting place. I had a holiday there as a child. I think they filmed the Shadowline TV series there. Unlike the Channel Isles it has an NHS very much like ours but I think you have to live there for 5 years before you can access it. And seeing a specialist involves flying you to Liverpool.

I live in Surrey but not sure I'd like the remoteness of the IoM. Good luck with your decision.

There are restrictions on claiming benefits, but national health cover is immediately available:

New residents, who should register with a General Practitioner on arrival, are entitled to the full range of services from the date of taking up residence. Prospective new residents with special medical requirements are advised to make enquiries of the Department of Health and Social Security to ensure that appropriate facilities are available.

New residents will find that certain public services and benefits are not immediately available to them on arrival. For example, public authority housing is restricted to those with at least ten years' residence on the Island; five years' residence is required to qualify for Income Support and six months for Family Income Supplement. If you were previously UK resident and/or entitled to a UK state pension, then these rights are normally transferred to the Isle of Man and a pension paid by the Isle of Man Department of Health and Social Security. You will also be entitled to free bus travel once aged 60.

http://www.ambitions.co.im/content.php?cms_id=7

Generali

chucknorris wrote: »

There are restrictions on claiming benefits, but national health cover is immediately available:

New residents, who should register with a General Practitioner on arrival, are entitled to the full range of services from the date of taking up residence. Prospective new residents with special medical requirements are advised to make enquiries of the Department of Health and Social Security to ensure that appropriate facilities are available.

New residents will find that certain public services and benefits are not immediately available to them on arrival. For example, public authority housing is restricted to those with at least ten years' residence on the Island; five years' residence is required to qualify for Income Support and six months for Family Income Supplement. If you were previously UK resident and/or entitled to a UK state pension, then these rights are normally transferred to the Isle of Man and a pension paid by the Isle of Man Department of Health and Social Security. You will also be entitled to free bus travel once aged 60.

http://www.ambitions.co.im/content.php?cms_id=7

What is it that makes me imagine that free bus travel in the IOM involves a lot of handbrake turns and gravel being flicked up at cameras positioned behind tire walls?

I've thought that the way to go upon retirement is more urban not less. As you get older you need public transport, health care, places of interest, people to interact with (work no longer provides a social outlet), caf!s, pubs and restaurants to visit. The centre of a city is the perfect place to live as an oldie.

The countryside on the other hand is slippery and ill-maintained. If you lose your licence, as will happen eventually through the aging process, then it's basically impossible to get around. There are few people about. Little to do if unfit and the prospect of having a choice of one or two places to visit without travelling a distance.

Oh and the internet is crap and everyone is a racist as they've never met a black person.

chucknorris

Generali wrote: »

What is it that makes me imagine that free bus travel in the IOM involves a lot of handbrake turns and gravel being flicked up at cameras positioned behind tire walls?

I've thought that the way to go upon retirement is more urban not less. As you get older you need public transport, health care, places of interest, people to interact with (work no longer provides a social outlet), caf!s, pubs and restaurants to visit. The centre of a city is the perfect place to live as an oldie.

The countryside on the other hand is slippery and ill-maintained. If you lose your licence, as will happen eventually through the aging process, then it's basically impossible to get around. There are few people about. Little to do if unfit and the prospect of having a choice of one or two places to visit without travelling a distance.

Oh and the internet is crap and everyone is a racist as they've never met a black person.

We'll most likely come back to the UK eventually, my wife is 11 years younger than me, so she can drive for a while, if I do end up losing my license, earlier than anticipated. But I think that it is realistic for me to stay there until my mid 80's, which would give us at least 20 years there. My social outlets would be, the outdoor bowls club, indoor bowls club, the chess club, probably walking/rambling clubs and others yet to be defined.

If for some reason we did have to come back much earlier than anticipated, there wouldn't be a cost, because there is no stamp duty on the IOM, and as we would probably move house anyway when retiring, there wouldn't be an extra significant cost. Just in case though, we would probably keep our house over here, and rent there for a year, before buying.

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

I've thought that the way to go upon retirement is more urban not less. As you get older you need public transport, health care, places of interest, people to interact with (work no longer provides a social outlet), caf!s, pubs and restaurants to visit. The centre of a city is the perfect place to live as an oldie.

The countryside on the other hand is slippery and ill-maintained. If you lose your licence, as will happen eventually through the aging process, then it's basically impossible to get around. There are few people about. Little to do if unfit and the prospect of having a choice of one or two places to visit without travelling a distance.

Precisely so. The notion of living in the countryside as we become more infirm is baffling to me. Being near the heart of a town, or better a city seems essential.

chucknorris

zagubov wrote: »

Precisely so. The notion of living in the countryside as we become more infirm is baffling to me. Being near the heart of a town, or better a city seems essential.

This reminds me of something someone said to me when I was finishing a run in Cornwall on the beach, he said, you'll not be able to run like that when your 50, it was only 3 years ago, when I was 55. IMO some people seem to live their lives like they are infirm in their 40's, I'm 58 and I keep fit by running, hiking and cycling, and recently to a far lesser extent swimming (I just can't fit it in while I am still working). Obviously as I get older that might diminish, but that isn't the plan. When I ran in the Dorking 10 mile road race, there were quite a few octogenarians in the race, which I found inspiring, that is the 80 year old that I aim to be. Some might say that everyone wants that, but if they are couch potatoes when only in the 40's and 50's they aren't exactly preparing very well for it.

There are no guarantees in life, but if you don't try, you definetely won't achieve.

antrobus

zagubov wrote: »

Precisely so. The notion of living in the countryside as we become more infirm is baffling to me. Being near the heart of a town, or better a city seems essential.

The nearer you are to a major hospital, the better. There is one hospital in Douglas. I don't know how comprehensive its services are, but I expect that if you get very ill, you get shipped across to the mainland for treatment.

On the other hand, there is KFC in Douglas. Although it does have a pretty awful review on TripAdvisor. There may be other chicken shops available. There was a good restaurant in the basement of the Regal Hotel (?) on the prom, but that was years ago. Goodness knows whether it is still there.

chucknorris

antrobus wrote: »

The nearer you are to a major hospital, the better. There is one hospital in Douglas. I don't know how comprehensive its services are, but I expect that if you get very ill, you get shipped across to the mainland for treatment.

On the other hand, there is KFC in Douglas. Although it does have a pretty awful review on TripAdvisor. There may be other chicken shops available. There was a good restaurant in the basement of the Regal Hotel (?) on the prom, but that was years ago. Goodness knows whether it is still there.

There are 2 hospitals on the IOM, Nobles hospital (on the outskirts of Douglas) which is quite large, and a smaller cottage hospital in Ramsey.

https://www.gov.im/categories/health-and-wellbeing/hospitals-and-emergency-treatment/

antrobus

chucknorris wrote: »

There are 2 hospitals on the IOM, Nobles hospital (on the outskirts of Douglas) which is quite large, and a smaller cottage hospital in Ramsey....

I know. But a cottage hospital ain't a hospital. It will have a minor injuries unit, and provide a bit of physiotherapy, and that's about it. It's no bl00dy use if you're actually ill with something vaguely serious.

Living in the Isle of Man won't be massively different from living in say, Cumbria, healthwise. It's just that being an island, it's bit more inconvient to get to a hospital in Newcastle or Liverpool.